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Name:   Yankee06 The author of this post is registered as a member
Subject:   Obama Losing Independents
Date:   9/8/2009 5:57:09 PM

MM,
-reference your above comments on independents...
-si-i-i-i-i-i-i-igh, why do I let you bate me like this? Anyway, ...as an independent I guess I must respond....because we were not "duped", as you suggest (or perhaps we just "acted stupidly")
-IN my below post on Obama's school talk (which I'm assuming you read cuz you posted below me in that thread),I discussed how independents (admittedly the group that got Obama elected) were having a tough time supporting him

-Now those independents that voted for Obama didn't do so cuz they were "Duped" as you may think. Those independents voted for a number of reasons, among them the fact that the conservatives/Republicans for the previous 6 years spent and ran up deficits like teh proverbial drunken sailors or....dems. Given the choice between Republicans that act like democrats or democrats that really wanted to act like socialists (am I being redundant here?), these independents chose one among only bad choices they were presented. So let's drop teh "duped" word, unless we apply it to 2004 as well as 2008. Please, be nicer to us. As a group we are a very sensitive bunch :)
-Now,if y'all will indulge me, I copy again my below post on what I know alot of independents are feeling....

from below post:
-But I, as an independant (some still say "wishy-washy"), was willing to wait and see what the guy says (Note: Obama in his school address), because almost whatever he says has to be inspirational for kids in inner cities and rural areas where education is in shambles. BUt what i was concerned about as expressed in below emails was the second paragraph of teh original lesson plans, --the "what can we do for our president" stuff.

-It's true that None of us may ever know if or how his speech may have changed because of teh hubbub; but it is equally true that we all DO know that the the lesson plan changed because of teh hubbub.

-This is just one incident of political whip lash, and, by most accounts, a small one. However, what is causing growing concern among the independents I know and talk with is the growing accumulation of these single "not-to-worry" incidents, that as a group is starting to cause alot of the people "to worry." Examples: the "I apologize for America" tour thru Europe; the "America is not a Christian nation" tour thru the mid-east; the kisssy face tour through South America; the we can't intrude in teh Iran unrest, but we can intrude in teh Isreali unrest"; the "no-read" vote on cap and trade; the public takeover of auto companies that disregarded long standing bankruptcy procedures for bond owners in favor of unions claims; the czars of unvetted people of questionable character and loyalties; an untennable healthcare bill in content to be pushed thru in a no-read' vote; etc, etc, etc,
-I honestly want to believe that he and his administration can be good for America, but I doubt it more and more every day.
Other messages in this thread:View Entire Thread
Obama Losing Independents - MartiniMan - 9/8/2009 5:28:12 PM
     Obama Losing Independents - Yankee06 - 9/8/2009 5:57:09 PM
          Yankee, a serious post - alahusker - 9/8/2009 7:10:35 PM
               Yankee, a serious post - green,ed - 9/9/2009 9:40:42 AM
          Obama Losing Independents - MartiniMan - 9/9/2009 8:28:21 AM
          And by "you" in the above - MartiniMan - 9/9/2009 10:22:38 AM
               And by "you" in the above - Yankee06 - 9/9/2009 11:56:00 AM
                    And by "you" in the above - MartiniMan - 9/9/2009 12:17:32 PM
                         Thoughtful posts, guys. - alahusker - 9/9/2009 7:36:26 PM
                    I disagree - au67 - 9/9/2009 8:46:30 PM
                         I disagree - Yankee06 - 9/9/2009 10:34:55 PM
                         Exactly! - MartiniMan - 9/9/2009 10:37:53 PM
                              Exactly! - Summer Lover - 9/10/2009 9:22:28 AM
                                   Libertarian not independent - MartiniMan - 9/10/2009 11:00:02 AM
                                        Not quite Libertarian either - Summer Lover - 9/10/2009 11:54:19 AM
                                             Not quite Libertarian either - MartiniMan - 9/10/2009 1:03:11 PM
                                                  Not quite Libertarian either - Yankee06 - 9/10/2009 1:32:36 PM
                                                       Not quite Libertarian either - MartiniMan - 9/10/2009 3:27:27 PM



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