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It took me a while but I think I finally figured out what the he!! you are talking about. Pap was the police chief way back when amd then Gene Skelton was after that. Gene never got me buyt Paps did once or twice...lol.
As for the Butts, the only Butts I knew was Jimmy and he was several years older. He lived right down the road though and hang out with one or two of my sisters.
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