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Name:   Swimmer27 The author of this post is registered as a member - Email Member
Subject:   Kent State
Date:   6/28/2009 3:03:18 PM

Your post didn't upset me and I am sorry if it seemed that it did. I always placed all the blame on the troops until hearing my b-i-l tell his story. If you saw after action reports you probably know even more details than I do. By BIL was just a grunt soldier. But you must know also that the main 'stressors' on the troops leading up to the shooting had little to do with what was happening on campus. Most of the troops had been riding patrol on the interestates guarding the 'scab' truckers that were still hauling goods during the teamsters strike. MANY of them had been exposed to live fire while riding those convoys so their nerves were on edge already. I am not making excuses, just relating facts. In recent years I have also seen video and stills of the General in charge ranting and raving and demanding that they take action.

On the up side, the troops are much better trained now in crowd control and riot suppression. I still don't think you could get the average troops to fire on citizens here. I do however, beleive that there are certain units that have been specifically trained to respond to domestic situations. Unfortunately, I fear we may both find out the answer sooner than we would hope.
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Cap and Trade - MartiniMan - 6/26/2009 1:35:28 PM
     Cap and Trade - Summer Lover - 6/26/2009 2:10:06 PM
     Ummmmmm.... MM - lamont - 6/26/2009 2:42:22 PM
          Ummmmmm.... MM - MartiniMan - 6/26/2009 3:13:40 PM
               Ummmmmm.... MM - lamont - 6/26/2009 3:37:46 PM
                    My pleasure..... - MartiniMan - 6/26/2009 4:25:03 PM
     Cap and Trade - au67 - 6/26/2009 4:49:53 PM
     Cap and Trade - MartiniMan - 6/26/2009 5:18:20 PM
          Cap and Trade - Astro - 6/26/2009 5:50:09 PM
               Treason - Talullahhound - 6/26/2009 8:15:03 PM
                    Treason - Astro - 6/26/2009 8:41:08 PM
                    Treason - wix - 6/26/2009 8:54:32 PM
                         Treason - 4691 - 6/26/2009 9:57:43 PM
                    Treason - MrHodja - 6/27/2009 12:33:08 AM
                         Treason - Talullahhound - 6/27/2009 6:51:03 AM
                              Treason - water_watcher - 6/27/2009 7:44:42 AM
                              Question for you - MartiniMan - 6/27/2009 10:10:34 AM
                                   Question for you - architect - 6/27/2009 1:08:50 PM
                                        Question for you - architect - 6/27/2009 1:14:35 PM
                                        Seems pretty narrow - MartiniMan - 6/27/2009 4:32:51 PM
                                             How Would You Classify - Feb - 6/27/2009 4:42:13 PM
                                                  Wrong but fair overall - MartiniMan - 6/28/2009 1:31:02 PM
                                                  How Would You Classify - water_watcher - 6/28/2009 6:38:40 PM
                              Treason - MrHodja - 6/27/2009 11:49:07 AM
                    Hound - Swimmer27 - 6/27/2009 8:29:13 AM
                         Treason???? - Yankee06 - 6/27/2009 9:59:56 AM
                              Treason???? - Astro - 6/27/2009 11:19:32 AM
                                   Treason???? - 4691 - 6/27/2009 1:24:45 PM
                                        Treason???? - Astro - 6/27/2009 1:51:20 PM
                                             Treason???? - 4691 - 6/27/2009 1:59:10 PM
                                                  Treason???? - Yankee06 - 6/27/2009 5:10:37 PM
                                                       Kent State - Swimmer27 - 6/28/2009 10:09:51 AM
                                                            Kent State - Yankee06 - 6/28/2009 11:41:35 AM
                                                                 Kent State - Swimmer27 - 6/28/2009 3:03:18 PM
     Cap and Trade - Barneget - 6/28/2009 10:56:01 PM



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