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Name:   CAT BOAT - Email Member
Subject:   Global Warming.....
Date:   1/5/2010 9:19:35 AM

My butt. I don't believe that chit for one minute. You been outside today?



Name:   water_watcher - Email Member
Subject:   Global Warming.....
Date:   1/5/2010 10:41:15 AM

And it is globally one of the coldest winters ever. Back in the 70's there was gloom and doom about the earth cooling and another ice age ... that was blamed on carbon fuels and CO2 emmissions as well. Then when the climate cycle shifted, the scare tactics went to Global Warming. The fact is, there are cycles and they do not have a clue if fossil fuels cause the problems or even if it is cause for concern. If we go through another few years with cold winters and cooler summers, the shift will be back to an ice age.



Name:   MAJ USA RET - Email Member
Subject:   Global Warming.....
Date:   1/5/2010 12:55:56 PM

None of this is surprising to me as a geophysicist. Over the past few years, scientists, especially astrophysicists, have been pointing out… without censorship or accusations of being “deniers”… that sunspot activity is significantly low. Well now, geophysicists will point out that such a decline in sunspot activity has historically been accompanied by global cooling (e.g. Eddy, J. A. 1976, Science, 192, 1189).

Again I refer you to the “Maunder Minimum”. See, for example (Cut and paste into your browser) http://www.stsci.edu/stsci/meetings/lisa3/beckmanj.html

This seems to me to be both plausible and normal and is supported by OPEN scientific research and history. The sunspot correlation with global climate response complies with the theory of Uniformitarianism… that natural laws and processes which produced cause and effect in the past, will reproduce the same cause and effect in the present. In essence, the natural “experiment” is repeated.

Again I refer you to the “Maunder Minimum”. See, for example (Cut and paste into your browser) http://www.stsci.edu/stsci/meetings/lisa3/beckmanj.html

However, our lifetime is puny compared to earth climate cycles (ice ages and tropical ages). Glaciers and shorelines advance and retreat in periods of tens of thousands of years. You and I are nothing but a blink of an eye… dust in the wind… and this week’s bitter cold snap is neither portent nor insignificant in the scheme of global climate conditions to come.

To me, it’s just a very prolonged passing of a continental polar cold air mass.




Name:   Mack - Email Member
Subject:   Hey Cat>>>
Date:   1/5/2010 7:18:33 PM

Don't speak that Astro Geo stuff, but, I can say that when the thermometer says it is about 18*, it is COLD, and that anything exposed for very long is gonna' stop working, right? And WD-40 ain't gonna' help.



Name:   Summer Lover - Email Member
Subject:   Hey Cat>>>
Date:   1/6/2010 8:47:54 AM

Just add duct tape and popsicle sticks to your tool box.



Name:   CAT BOAT - Email Member
Subject:   Hey Cat>>>
Date:   1/6/2010 11:14:35 AM

And a big hammer want work either. lol







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