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Jim Dandy
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What have we learned in 2,065 years?
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4/23/2010 3:31:48 PM
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"The budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed, lest Rome become bankrupt. People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance."
-- Cicero - 55 BC
Nothing, apparently!
God help us all...and save the Republic!
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MAJ USA RET
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4/24/2010 8:37:25 AM
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The liberals, AKA progressives, have no idea what you are talking about. For, unlike those who used to get a classical liberal education, they evidence no intellectual foundation in either history or philosophy. Liberals neither subscribe to, nor have a clear understanding of, the scientific method, Newtonian physics, or traditional economics. In short, they lack the capacity to govern for the benefit of the country and their constituents… the people be damned, they merely, and to our demise, want to govern the people.
All of the basics above: history, philosophy, science, physics, and economics are intertwined, i.e. one does not function independent of the other. AND THAT, my friends, used to be the basis of the liberal arts education… not the current kool-aid of activism and intolerance. Critical thinking used to be the calm application of reasoning based on collection of facts. In present times, critical thinking is “in Yo face!” argument armed with invective and self-absorbed reasoning.
Touchy-feely and hate-intolerance are closer to each other than one would surmise. It could be that they don't care about us.
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widgethater
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4/24/2010 1:13:08 PM
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do not let the democrats get into office
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Yankee06
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4/25/2010 1:13:18 PM
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Spent many nights in high school trying to translate Cicero. Usually ended by copying from a buddy.
-Some question about the origin of above quote. Although the above quote in my mind certainly describes what congress should be doing, instead of what it is doing, scholars can't seem to find it in Cicero's works, although some of his quotes carry similar intent.
By the way, anyone thnk there is even one credible orator in today's congress?
In checking out above quote this is what I found:
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The budget should be balanced, the treasury should be refilled, public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest Rome become bankrupt. The mobs should be forced to work and not depend on government for subsistence.
One scholar (John H. Collins, Professor of History at Northern Illinois University) stated: It actually originated in A Pillar of Iron (1965), Taylor Caldwell's fictionalized account of the life of the senator. (In fact, Collins noted that it was on page 483 of the edition he had in hand.)
Collins held that the alleged quotation "is totally without documentation," and that "the great bulk of [Caldwell's] quotations are false." He further observed that "[a] historical novelist has a perfect right to put invented conversations and anecdotes into a novel, but should not represent these inventions as authentic history."
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