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MartiniMan
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Blue state misery continues post Sandy
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11/8/2012 1:20:41 PM
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Where is the govt media exposing the continued incompetence of FEMA, Oblamer, Bloomberg and Christie since Sandy hit? Yes another example of their overt and obvious bias and the continued pass that TOTUS gets. The devil on my left shoulder is telling me to laugh my butt off at the morons that voted for what they are getting. But the angel on my right shoulder is telling me to have sympathy for the victims.
But what I think this demonstrates is exactly what I have long stated, government does very little well. Expectations for FEMA and government (state or federal) and its ability to respond to something like this were unrealistic after Katrina and likewise after Sandy. The glaring difference is that the govt media is not holding Oblamer to account for the inability of government to do anything well.
TOTUS got his pre-election boost from his photo op and Chris Christie slobbering all over him and then he was off to more important things...like getting reelected. So it worked out well for Obama.....how about you folks in New York and New Jersey that voted for him??? How is that Forward thing working for you?
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LoveCamping
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I am hijacking your question with a question
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11/8/2012 2:03:24 PM
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MM, You often refer to the media as the “government media”. Help me understand your thinking process in using the term like that will you? I know, I know… I have been called a conspiracy theorist on this forum and it even caused me to research that term and I actually learned something about myself. I learned that I am the type that needs to find a pattern for everything including random events. But I digress….. What would motivate the media to become government controlled? How did it happen do you think? What is the agenda of the media in its total support of the liberal cause and why in the hell is it so widespread (All TV, Radio, Newspapers and education)? Why wouldn’t the mega corporations that own the media be similar in thinking as you, I, Hodja, WW etc…? I don’t get it?
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MartiniMan
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Glad to answer a very good question
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11/8/2012 2:25:48 PM
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When I refer to the "govt media" I am referring specifically to the mainstream media in America that is composed of the big three networks and major market newspapers. I could use the the term Pravda but then it gets all confused with the communism thing which is not what this is about.
Historically the 4th estate or mainstream media was intent on "reporting the news". Yes, Walter Cronkite was biased but when compared to the low standards of today his bias was barely noticeable. The news was generally reported as it was with the glaring exception of WW2 when the media actually took sides with America in its war with the Axis (primarily Germany and Japan). But if the President or his administration denied aid to its Ambassador and others in a foreign country and they were killed the mainstream media reported on that regardless of whether POTUS was a Democrat or a Republican and the reporting was generally consistent.
I think this all began to change post WW2 when America's journalism schools were becoming dominated by the left, some of which were outright communists but most were liberals. So the education system began to turn out left leaning budding journalists who over the years have grown into management positions. And we know how liberals love to surround themselves with like minded folks so pretty soon when you asked a journalism student at Columbia why they were there rather than saying they wanted to help inform the public on what was going on in the world most said they wanted to change the world. And during the Vietnam War when the media decided it was an unjust war they took sides and saw the power they had to shape public opinion. Just look at the coverage of the Tet offensive. It was a military disaster for the Viet Cong but our media spun it as a massive victory. And then we had Watergate, where the media learned that through their biased reporting they could bring down a President.
So now with that background here is the answer to your question. Our mainstream media is no different than Pravda, ACN, al Jezeera or any other so-called news organization in a totalitarian government. They no longer consider it their role to inform the public, it is to shape the opinion of the public to see things their way. In this case their way is big government liberalism. They have taken sides. They are no longer the 4th estate, They are a propaganda organ of big government and that is one of the primary reasons they were overtly and obviously covering for Obama. They are an extension of big government and it is their duty to drum out politicians that do not see the role of government like they do. Hence the double standard for the GOP. And they are overtly, openly socially liberal and hence they cover social issues through that template and so anything socially liberal is to be presented in the most positive light, anything negative about social liberal ideas must be suppressed and anything socially conservative must be demonized.
Does that answer why I call them the govt media? Sometimes I call them the dinosaur media because one of the logical outcomes of their bias is financial ruin. Its why they hate FoxNews so intensely. Not only is Fox their opposite but Fox is financially successful. They really hate that. But as Dan Rather said, profits be damned, we should report the news the way we want to and cBS should be willing to lose money if thats what it takes. Typical liberal economic illiteracy and lack of an adult perspective.
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LoveCamping
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Glad to answer a very good question
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11/8/2012 3:07:13 PM
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Thanks for such a thorough response to the question. I may be giving away my age but I was still riding my Big Wheel and drinking Yohoo's during the Vietnam and Watergate era and remember waiting for Walter Cronkite to get over with so I could talk to my dad. What you said makes perfect sense. I guess my big worry is how the situation could be turned around..... It seems like the odds are so stacked against the good guys that we will never get out from under this problem. I had hope with the internet, but with search engines and social media falling under ever increasing big brother/liberal control I am not so sure.....
Roll on 2016.... I am looking forward to getting rid of my 4 year hangover too. I am absolutely sick to the core.
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MartiniMan
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Glad to answer a very good question
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11/8/2012 3:26:15 PM
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I think the only way around this is through the alternate media. Look at it this way, we had the power of incumbency combined with an over the top sycophantic media and had Republicans just showed up in the same numbers as they did in 2008 Romney would have definitely won the popular vote and probably the electoral college.
We need to start working on 2016 today because the govt media will be the same, albeit smaller and less influential. And blacks and hispanics will still vote for the goodies being passed out by the Dems. Ironically the best thing for the GOP would be an improved economy because it would lessen dependency on govt. But we all know with the big government policies, the massive tax increases coming, the incredible cost increases as a result of Obamacare and the new unemployment norm of 8%-10% like in Europe that the dependent class in 2016 will probably be greater, not less than today.
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MrHodja
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And They Are Still At It
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11/8/2012 3:39:25 PM
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I happened into our breakfast room this morning and the TV was on the Today show. The male anchor (I forget his name) was interviewing Haley Barbour and just before the interview he stated that the Republicans are fighting among themselves and playing the blame game. On comes Barbour and the anchor continued to try to get Barbour to agree with him, and of course Barbour didn't. At one time the anchor tried to cut Barbour off very rudely with the same accusations, but Haley held his ground.
Point is that, although they got Obama reelcted, they will not stop trying to put down Republicans and conswrvatives.
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MartiniMan
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Its their religion
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11/8/2012 3:55:27 PM
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Its why Rush says frequently to forget converting them....we have to defeat them. They are ideologues tied to a failed ideology. Nothing is more dangerous.
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