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Talullahhound
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Reasons I am not Voting for Hilary
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8/25/2016 8:36:17 PM
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1. She was not an effective Secretary of State.
2. While I do not blame her for what happened in Benghazi, I think she made a grave error in letting the discussion go on about whether the military should go in uniform or not. That was definitely a State Department call and she should have cut the discussion, and made a decision. I believe she was part of the cover up that said it was because video as Susan Rice was directed to say on the Sunday talk shows. I believe the WH had a hand in it, but Hilary would have been in on that discussion. And I think she mishandled her testimony before the Committee on that. She was dismissive and condescending, instead of openly and honestly answering the questions. And yes, I watched her testimony, I didn't get it second hand.
3. Her emails. First she and her lawyer went through them all and deleted the those that she said were personal, with her making the decision. Then she said that "she had not sent or received" any classfied, which was later disproved. Then she tried to blame Colin Powell for her decision to use a private server, which Colin Powell has denied. She has exaggerated what the FBI said - that she didn't do anything wrong - well, no, they said that she had been extremely careless with classified information. I believe the decision not to prosecute her was was a political decision, knowing that the WH would not allow the Justice Department to proceed. And then there was that strange meeting in the Arizona airport. And then there are more emails and the investigations go on. The email thing bothers me for a different reason than most people. As Secretary of State, she would have been a classifying authority, which means she knew or should have know classified information, so if someone sent her classified, it should have prompted her to take immediate action, contacting security and let them investigate and recommend the appropriate action. Instead nothing happened. And if this had happened to me or some other federal employee, we would have lost our security clearance, lost our jobs, and may well have been prosecuted for a national security breech.
4. The foundation. One, it appears that she was using her assistant as both a government employee and an employee of the Foundation which creates a conflict of issue. It also appears that access to the Secretary of State, came readily about after a donation to the Clinton foundation. No one gives millions of dollars with no expectation of a quid pro quo. Add to that, in much of the world, donations, basheeh, paying an expeditor for something, or for access is accepted as a way of doing business. But this happens to be illegal in the U.S and illegal for Americans to pay it. First of all, the blurring of lines between the State Department business and the Foundation. I have no doubt that this will be investigated and someone will say that there isn't anything unethical or against the law, because it is clear that the WH is determined that Hilary will follow Obama.
5. Her ideas are not financially workable, especially at this point in time. We don't have a strong economy, experts seem to think the stock market is a house of cards right now. It's not time for expansion and extending certain entitlement programs. If Hilary is elected, we'll have at least 4 years of the same that Obama has given us and I don't think we can afford it.
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lakngulf
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Reasons I am not Voting for Hilary
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8/25/2016 9:21:08 PM (updated 8/25/2016 9:49:14 PM)
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Well said! Unfortunately, the clintons are made of teflon, and nothing sticks. I think hrc made a mistake when she admitted "there is smoke" on the pay for play email accusations. I do not expect anything to come of it, because of politics and media. Not sure the wikileaks guy has any damaging material, but even so, it will not stick.
But we are talking about the lady who took on fire upon arrival to Bosnia, right?
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Shortbus
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Reasons I am not Voting for Hilary
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8/25/2016 9:48:50 PM (updated 8/25/2016 9:54:23 PM)
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http://radaronline.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/NE3416_hillary_map.pdf
https://youtu.be/2cfEW9av2XU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTvUZnzQ7Zc
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copperline
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Reasons to vote for Hillary
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8/26/2016 9:56:04 AM
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- What I am reading is that she will not be remembered as one of the greatest Sec. of State we ever had, and probably was held back in her efforts by Obama who was more personally involved in managing foreign policy issues than any President since Nixon. Remember, when she became Sec of State, she had just finished a bruising political fight with Obama, but by his second term had resolved enough of their differences such that he asked her to remain on his cabinet. She will not be remembered as one of the great Secretaries of US history, but she did carry out the duties of that office, logging a million miles of travel to capitals around the world, and benefits from the experience of intense knowledge of world affairs as a result. There certainly is no comparable experience in Donald Trump’s resume.
- Benghazi remains an issue only because conservatives need to have something to attack her with. At the time, there were riots across the Arab world directly related to an incendiary US-made movie and some crazy Florida preacher who was loudly proclaiming that he was going to publically burn a Koran. With those riots underway across the region, it was natural assumption to connect the attack on the Embassy to that larger event. In my opinion, a terrorist cell simply took advantage of a chaotic situation to assassinate US embassy staff who had ventured into hostile territory without enough security. It was tragic, but can’t be laid at the foot of HRC. And the obligatory ‘explanations’ demanded by the Sunday talk shows were being made quickly rather than cautiously because American media demands instant answers. As far as her Senate testimony goes, they grilled her for 11 hours I believe. Maybe she was a bit irritable and understandably so.
- Mixing official emails with personal emails was an error, and she has said as much. However, using a personal server was a practice used by previous Secretaries of State. She did not publically blame Colin Powell, her statement about Powell came from the notes on the FBI investigations that conservative Congressmen insisted on reviewing…and then released to the press in yet another attempt to smear her. If the FBI had found wrong-doing, they would have been forced to recommend charges… to believe otherwise is another conspiracy theory.
- “It appears” is an allegation without proof or evidence. Her assistant had been a leading administrator of the Foundation for many years prior to coming with her to State… then took a train (on her own dime) to interview a potential candidate for heading up the Foundation. That's not a grevious conflict of interest if you remember that the Foundation is a Charity, or that her inherent knowledge of it made her a valuable screener for the next Foundation administrator. “No one gives millions of dollars with no expectation of a quid pro quo”…. But again, it’s an allegation without evidence. And if the Clintons can get Arab Monarchies to give millions of dollars to a charity whose efforts include the empowerment & education of women (people traditionally held as second class citizens in their culture)… I’d say that was a job well done.
The Clinton Foundation is a charity that gets particularly high marks for its work around the world… with improving the ability of African farmers to feed their countries, with education of girls, with healthcare in 3rd world countries. It will have to scale back if she is elected, and this is quite a shame. We need groups doing this type of work, and the fact that an ex-President took this on as his mission sure beats an Ex-POTUS playing golf & learning to paint in retirement.
I don’t recall anyone objecting to the CEO of Halliburton serving as Vice-President while his old corporation operated the oil fields of the Middle East and provided the US military with billions in goods and services during his term in office. Citing Clinton’s ‘conflict of interest’ in a family charity while Sec of State seems more than a little overblown in comparison.
- She proposes continued economic policies that have brought us through a huge Recession and avoided a world-wide economic collapse, and that’s good enough for me. The US economy is improving by anyone’s measures. And the stock market? The stock market has always been a house of cards, moving more due to psychology and public mood than underlying fundamentals. The fact is that after a world-wide crisis, the US is doing pretty well here. Yes, it’s going to be volatile … for lots of reasons… but let’s recall that a GOP congress created a needless government shutdown, almost defaulted on the US debt, and imposed across the board cuts on the budget that haven’t been very wise nor helpful in stabilizing the economy. Now the GOP Presidential candidate blithely comments that he ‘knows how to handle debt’ and would consider defaulting on US obligations in order to extort concessions from global partners. If the stock market looks unstable, it’s probably our fault because the rest of the world is wary of our sanity. If we allow conservatives to attack US financial credibility like this much more, then we can expect the US dollar to be replaced as the world reserve currency. THEN we’ll see what happens to a house of cards in a very high wind…..
HRC has made economic proposals that will need the support & debate of Congress to pass… her concerns about the rising cost of higher education are seriously worth thinking about, her advocacy of improved healthcare systems are, too. Raising the minimum wage to a living wage would bring lots of people who are currently in need of entitlement programs into a more self-sustaining financial position.
People forget that the government is a huge financial engine for creating jobs and infusing energy into the economy. If you tie the government’s hands, restrict its ability to tax & invest… then you are leaving our economic future to capitalist corporations whose primary mission is to increase their profits, not to improve the US economy.
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Reasons to vote for Hillary
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8/26/2016 10:14:15 AM (updated 8/26/2016 10:20:53 AM)
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Well said. Wish I had the ability to put my thoughts into words as well as you have. I especially appreciate the defense of the Clinton Foundation. Even though there has been no evidence presented that the contributions ever ''bought'' anything other than a quick meeting, it appears that one of the most effective and efficient charities on the planet will have to go out of business to satisfy a few extreme conspiracy rightwing power brokers. GOOD point about Cheney / Haliburton...now there is a real danger to the republic!
Speaking of words...just saw a Hillary ad where Trump's expletive laced comments (strategically bleeped of course) were featured. Now really, what would you folks, especially the evangelicals among you, be saying if Hillary or Obama let loose with the same course language in a public address? You to a person would be jumping up and down yelling for them to resign as unfit for office. Go ahead with your misguided, to my way of thinking, support for Trump, but please at least have the decency and courage to shed your hypocrisy and say you are at least disturbed with this man's toilet tongue remarks.
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MrHodja
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Reasons to vote for Hillary
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8/26/2016 10:55:38 AM
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I once characterized you as a Clinton apologist. Your post is primarily excuses. Also, If you really believe your last paragraph, then there is no hope for you. Capitalism made government investments possible, not the other way around.
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copperline
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to Hodja
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8/26/2016 12:10:52 PM
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You make "Clinton Apologist" into a slam... I'm a Clinton supporter, and my post is just my take on her positions.
And as far as the last paragraph goes.... I'd refer you to your history books where the WPA & New Deal pulled the US economy out of the Great Depression by creating jobs and developing much needed infrastructure that capitalist corporations had no interest in developing......,
....and refer you also to the causes of the latest great economic crash.... Bank Corporations unleashed from oversight who then propped up their balance sheets with derivatives, credit default swaps and predatory loan practices.... and then quite nearly brought the whole world economy crashing down.
....and to US Health Insurance corporations who are currently pulling back from providing policies on the Obamacare exchanges because their profit margins aren't high enough... while paying their executives hundreds of millions of dollars in annual salaries.
If you want to trust your future to the kindnesses of capitalist corporations, then there is no hope for you either. You don't want to live in a world of unrestrained capitalism, it would be brutal to the weakest among us, create a huge divide between the haves and have nots, and literally become a dog eat dog world.
This swimming pool needs a life guard and rules for capitalism to abide by... Otherwise, the big bad boys will just drown the rest of us.
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MrHodja
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to Hodja
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8/26/2016 1:07:36 PM
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Then the question is how much? In my opinion we have too much government now and with HRC I fear it will only get worse. And for all his bombast I don't feel Trump will do anything except move to give businesses some assurance of a stable playing field, which would serve to have them let loose of some of the trillions they now have squirreled away.
Dont forget that government operates on taxes, and eventually, no matter how much you raise taxes on the wealthy, eventually Government will not be able to sustain its existence because there won't be any tax dollars to be had. I don't want to get to that point.
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Talullahhound
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Reasons I am not Voting for Hilary
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8/26/2016 1:50:17 PM
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While I can appreciate the Hillary supporters rushing to her defense, these are my reasons for not voting for her. I also haven't forgotten the scandal of the end of the last Clinton Administration. Hilary did not distance herself, but rather jumped into the middle of the fray, casting herself as the strategist for getting Bill out of hot water. She wasn't upset with Bill for the cheating her, but rather that he got caught doing it and possibly damaging the political career she envisioned for herself. She than removed valuable gifts to the U.S. from the WH and claiming them for herself. The gifts were valued about $80,000, she claims she returned $22,000 worth, but no one has ever been able to verify that. To me, that speaks of a certain greediness. Hilary claims to be for the poor and middle class, but the fact is that she hasn't been that for a very long time and I doubt she can remember those days for herself. Obviously, she and Bill made out to remove themselves from that class as quickly as they could. So I don't know why anyone would believe that someone so clearly in the 1% would really be concerned about the lesser amongst us.
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wix
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Copperidiot is a COMMUNIST......
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8/26/2016 1:54:42 PM
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NO DOUBT ABOUT IT. BTW, WWII got the US out of the depression, not Roosevelt.
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copperline
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to Hodja
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8/26/2016 3:27:05 PM
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Yes, I agree the basic question is how much the government should participate in the marketplace, and to what extent it should levy taxes that could stifle growth of the non-government sector. That debate is where we (conservatives and progressives) will have to focus our attention in the future. The devil is in the details.
Right now, we are still stuck in seeing it as an all-in or all-out proposition…. And neither of those is realistic.
I’m an investor, dependent on my savings & Social Security to support me for the rest of my life. I don’t have a retiree pension from the government or a corporation. And I know that some of my opinions on economics are not necessarily in my best interests. Higher taxes, for instance, would take from me and go to support things like schools … but I don’t have any kids who are in school… so no benefit to me there.
But then, maybe it’s not all about me.
I also came up in a society where if it weren’t for government intervention, there wouldn’t be a fair playing field for a lot of people. When we were born, black people couldn’t even vote and if you were poor & sick… plenty of people just didn’t have anywhere to turn. Government programs expanded to protect lots of people and promoted the growth of the middle class… leading to more consumers…. And invigorating the US economy. Scaling back the protections of government oversight in favor of the ‘moral vision’ of US corporations seems to me as foolish as letting George Wallace run the Economic Opportunity Commission.
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wix
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Communist copper
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8/26/2016 5:14:25 PM
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Every point you attempted to make reflects your communist/socialist commitment. The interesting point is it appears you did not live off the gubment tit since you have no retirement program.
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Shortbus
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Reasons I am not Voting for Hilary
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8/26/2016 7:09:12 PM
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Here are the 20 worst lies in her speech, in chronological order.
1. [Trump’s rhetoric] is like nothing we’ve heard before from a nominee for President of the United States. On the contrary, Barack Obama has specialized in divisive rhetoric, both as a candidate (“bitter clingers,” “typical white person“) and as president. And, of course, Hillary Clinton often uses racist language. In 2008, she pandered to “hard-working … white Americans”; in 2016, she borrows from Black Lives Matter, talking about “white privilege” and “systemic racism.”
2. He’s taking hate groups mainstream and helping a radical fringe take over one of America’s two major political parties. Donald Trump has nothing to do with hate groups, but a “radical fringe” has been in charge of the Democratic Party for a decade — and she was its first victim, in the 2008 primaries. Since then, the party’s leaders have embraced the Occupy Wall Street protests and the Black Lives Matter movement — which she still supports despite its incitement against police.
3. In just the past week, under the guise of “outreach” to African Americans, Trump has stood up in front of largely white audiences and described black communities in insulting and ignorant terms: “Poverty. Rejection. Horrible education. No housing. No homes. No ownership. Crime at levels nobody has seen… Right now, you walk down the street, you get shot.” Ironically, Clinton said that in front of a “largely white” audience in Reno. But consider what she is saying: if you speak honestly about problems in the black community, you are racist. That is how political correctness has imprisoned blacks for 50 years, ever since (Democrat) Pat Moynihan tried to talk about the crisis in the black family.
4. A man with a long history of racial discrimination. Trump has no history whatsoever of racial discrimination. At the Democratic National Convention last month, former Maryland Gov. Martin O’Malley fled from the camera rather than cite one single example of anything Trump had said about black people, much less done. Clinton cited a handful of lawsuits by the Department of Justice — a department which recently tried suing Louisiana school districts for helping black students.
5. And let’s not forget Trump first gained political prominence leading the charge for the so-called “Birthers.” The “Birther” movement started among Hillary Clinton’s own supporters in 2008, encouraged by a candidate with a deliberate strategy of painting her opponent as not fully American. Her campaign also encouraged suspicions that Obama is a secret Muslim. If Trump is a racist for asking for Obama’s birth certificate, then Hillary Clinton is an even bigger racist than he.
6. In 2015, Trump launched his own campaign for President with another racist lie. He described Mexican immigrants as rapists and criminals. Trump’s statement was over-broad, but he was not describing “immigrants.” He was describing illegal aliens. He did specifically add: “And some, I assume, are good people.” What the Clinton campaign does not want to acknowledge, in its push for open borders and total amnesty, is that some illegal aliens from Mexico do rape and murder.
7. This is someone who retweets white supremacists online. Trump is constantly on Twitter, and retweets many people. If he were interested in retweeting white supremacists, we would see many examples — not one or two inadvertent retweets among thousands. If you want to find extremism on Twitter, visit Hillary Clinton’s own Twitter feed, tweeting and retweeting Black Lives Matter. The day after police officers were murdered in Dallas, she was tweeting about white racism. Appalling.
8. His campaign famously posted an anti-Semitic image – a Star of David imposed over a sea of dollar bills – that first appeared on a white supremacist website. The Trump campaign didn’t realize the image was antisemitic, and did not know its origins. It changed the image after complaints. But look at the overt antisemitism in the Clinton campaign: a plan discussed by party officials to use Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders’ religion against him, for example, which Clinton never condemned.
9. When asked in a nationally televised interview whether he would disavow the support of David Duke, a former leader of the Ku Klux Klan, Trump wouldn’t do it. Only later, again under mounting pressure, did he backtrack. What Clinton leaves out, of course, is that Trump had already denounced Duke and the KKK several times — including the day before that CNN interview. She falsely paints his repeated denunciation, in the days after the interview, as backtracking.
10. Trump said thousands of American Muslims in New Jersey cheered the 9/11 attacks. They didn’t. “Thousands” did not, but a handful did. Breitbart News did much of the legwork uncovering the truth behind what actually happened in New Jersey, and it was clear that a minority of American Muslims celebrated the attack. Clinton can barely bring herself even to acknowledge radical Islamic terror, so it is no surprise she would persist in her denial. But she has to lie in order to do so.
11. Just recently, Trump claimed President Obama founded ISIS. And then he repeated that nonsense over and over. This complaint might be taken seriously were it not a response to Clinton’s lie that Trump is the “recruiting sergeant” for ISIS. Trump’s claim that Obama (and Clinton) “founded” ISIS, by allowing a vacuum in Iraq, is an exaggeration of what happened, but Clinton’s claim that Americans are to blame for terror by criticizing Islam actually does the terrorists’ work for them.
12. It’s another reason why Donald Trump is simply temperamentally unfit to be President of the United States. This is a lie for the simple reason that it is what Democrats say about nearly every Republican presidential nominee, regardless. In 2008, Obama constantly claimed that Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) lacked the temperament to be President of the United States.
13. And he’d ban Muslims around the world – 1.5 billion men, women, and children -from entering our country just because of their religion. Trump has since refined his policy to target immigrants and visitors from regions of the world (predominantly Musilm) where terrorism is a problem. But note that the reason for his policy is not because of religion itself, but rather because extremist members of that religion have a horrifyingly frequent habit of terrorism against innocent people.
14. “Hoist It High And Proud: The Confederate Flag Proclaims A Glorious Heritage.” Clinton singled out several Breitbart News headlines (among thousands) to claim that the site is racist. The irony of this particular headline, which comes from a guest op-ed, is that Clinton embraced the Confederate flag for decades — not just as First Lady of Arkansas, whose own state flag commemorates the Confederate flag (by her husband’s decree), but later on the campaign trail in 2008.
15. Trump – the only Presidential candidate ever to get into a public feud with the Pope. Every Catholic Democratic presidential candidate who supports abortion is opposed to the Pope. In 2007, Pope Benedict XVI reiterated that politicians who support abortion should be denied communion. Pope Francis has softened that rhetoric but the conflict remains.
16. According to the Southern Poverty Law Center, which tracks hate groups, Breitbart embraces “ideas on the extremist fringe of the conservative right.” That is simply a lie, as anyone who reads Breitbart even occasionally would know. And the Southern Poverty Law Center has no credibility left — certainly since a would-be mass shooter used the center’s guide to “hate” groups to target the Family Research Council merely for supporting traditional marriage.
17. That one came shortly after the Charleston massacre, when Democrats and Republicans alike were doing everything they could to heal racial divides. Breitbart tried to enflame them further. On the contrary: as Democrats like Clinton were exploiting the Charleston attack to inflame racial division and push gun control, Breitbart News focused on healing. There are several examples, including Lee Stranahan’s moving account of the makeshift memorial in Charleston.
18. Just yesterday, one of Britain’s most prominent right-wing leaders, Nigel Farage, who stoked anti-immigrant sentiments to win the referendum on leaving the European Union, campaigned with Donald Trump in Mississippi. Here Clinton repeats one of the most frequent — and self-defeating — delusions of the anti-Brexit campaign. (Farage has already responded.) The majority of British voters are not bigots; they simply chose sovereignty over foreign bureaucracy.
19. Trump himself heaps praise on Putin and embrace pro-Russian policies. He talks casually of abandoning our NATO allies, recognizing Russia’s annexation of Crimea, and of giving the Kremlin a free hand in Eastern Europe more generally. How rich this is, coming from a former Secretary of State who championed the Russian “reset” and ensured, after a hefty donation to the Clinton Foundation, that a Russian firm controlled by Putin owned 20% of American uranium.
20. Parents and teachers are already worried about what they’re calling the “Trump Effect.” Bullying and harassment are on the rise in our schools, especially targeting students of color, Muslims, and immigrants. There is little evidence to support this claim. But Americans have been bullied — by the Obama administration, which unleashed the IRS on its political enemies, and accused opponents of the Iran deal of making “common cause” with the regime — attacks that Clinton supports.
Joel B. Pollak is Senior Editor-at-Large at Breitbart News. His new book, See No Evil: 19 Hard Truths the Left Can’t Handle, is available from Regnery through Amazon. Follow him on Twitter at @joelpollak.
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Reasons I am not Voting for Hilary
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8/26/2016 10:28:20 PM
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Interesting and well stated, Hound. You let one thing unsaid which will likely decide the election outcome. Will you vote for Donald Trump or sit it out??
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MrHodja
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8/27/2016 8:42:54 AM (updated 8/27/2016 8:45:18 AM)
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MrHodja
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Reasons I am not Voting for Hilary
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8/27/2016 8:44:44 AM
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Hound can answer for herself, but in my opinion a sit-out is a vote for HRC.
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Reasons I am not Voting for Hilary
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8/27/2016 10:00:52 AM (updated 8/27/2016 10:08:17 AM)
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Hound has made it clear, she is for Trump. I cannot agree with Mr H, Not voting or voting for a lesser known candidate who you think is the most qualified is never a vote for anyone else...it is a vote for personal ethics and honesty. If you think no candidate is qualified then write in someone who is, if you think Johnson or Stein trumps Trump and Clinton then vote Johnson or Stein. I do not like Hillary and would loved to have had the chance to consider John Kasich, but l will vote for Hillary because I believe, while she is not the most honest, she is by far the best qualified among all contenders when all issues are weighed. As I have said...we are electing someone to hold the most powerful position on earth, not a Cub Scout den mother.
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Reasons I am not Voting for Hilary
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8/27/2016 10:13:50 AM
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Why don't you follow you own advice and write in John Kasich?
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Reasons I am not Voting for Hilary
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8/27/2016 10:51:10 AM
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While he is not, by any stretch, my ideal candidate, I will vote for Trump. I'm still looking for hope and change. I believe in a lot of what Trump talks about, particulary about agreements with no quid pro quo, us continually footing the bill for everyone else, to do something definitive about the war with ISIS (No, I'm not a proponent of nuking them and despite what he has said, Trump won't do that either). Something needs to be done about illegals, and until they can do something for our vets, I don't think we should take in refugees, particularly those that refuse to assimulate. I'm willing to give him a shot at fixing our economy.
I figure it may be a short as a 4 year commitment, but we need to break the gridlock of a government that can't seem to agree on anything and can no longer function to get something done.
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Reasons to vote for Hillary
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8/27/2016 1:29:56 PM
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CL
Re: #5. GDP for first quarter revised downward to 0.8% Second quarter 1.1%. And this is what you call good by anyone's standards? You want 4 more years of this? Not me.
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Reasons I am...Voting for Hilary
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8/27/2016 1:42:45 PM (updated 8/27/2016 1:44:10 PM)
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I AM following my advice which was to write in someone if you feel NONE of the candidates on the ballot are qualified. I think both Hillary and Johnson are qualified with Clinton having a decided edge overall based on the issues. I think Stein's policies are off the wall crazy. I think Trump's policies are equally off the wall crazy plus he is completely unqualified mentally, ethically, and by temperment and experience. I would write in Kasich or someone else if I considered there were no qualified persons on the ballot.
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Reasons I am not Voting for Hilary
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8/27/2016 6:22:15 PM
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allthis back & forth is so much fun; what i want to know is:
1) which candidate, if elected, is going to pay off my kids student loan debt to UAB< VANDERBILT, AU & UA; FED LOAN SERVICING HAS THESE KIDS PAYING 6.8% INTEREST; THE GOING INTEREST RATE ON A 30 YEAR MORTGAGE IS 4%
2] WHERE WILL THE MONEY COME FROM--THE PRINTING PRESS IN THE BASEMENT OF THE WHITE HOUSE ?
3] THE MONIES WE GAVE TO TERRORIST NATION IRAN, WOULD HAVE COVERED A LOT OF STUDENT LOAN DEBT !!
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Reasons I am not Voting for Hilary
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8/27/2016 7:44:47 PM
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"3] THE MONIES WE GAVE TO TERRORIST NATION IRAN, WOULD HAVE COVERED A LOT OF STUDENT LOAN DEBT !!"
Wasn't it their money? I am no fan of Iran but why should we steal their money to pay your bills?
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lakngulf
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Reasons I am not Voting for Hilary
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8/27/2016 8:12:11 PM
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^^^^^^What she said
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wix
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GOOFBUTT... DA
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8/27/2016 10:19:22 PM
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Why give money to any enemy? That deposit wasn't given by the muslim god or whatever o-BAMA calls him, it was a deposit by the Shah. You don't give the enemy ANYTHING. Man, you are really out there.
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architect
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You really are a jerk
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8/27/2016 10:59:36 PM
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Wix, unless you are an Atheist or worship Thor or Zeus or Satan, the ''Muslim God'' is your God too!
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wix
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Archidiot, the "MOON GOD"
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8/27/2016 11:16:06 PM
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IS NOT THE GOD OF CHRISTIANS, not the God of forgiveness, not the God of peace. This krap was started by muslim lovers after the muslim attack on NYC. Oh, the god of Abraham and Jacob.....we're really brothers with the same beliefs.....BS. THE MOON god of the muslims has no claim to the real God of humanity.
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architect
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As I say
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8/28/2016 7:00:04 AM (updated 8/28/2016 7:01:55 AM)
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You really are a jerk...such a jerk you think you are smart enough and powerful enough to decide for God who he (or she) is! You talk about ''peace and forgivness''...you don't even know the meaning of the words.
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wix
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Archidiot
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8/28/2016 9:12:15 AM
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Your true beliefs are exposed by your own statement, so you try to deflect by attacking me. SSSSOOOOOO TYPICAL.......SSSSOOOO DIMOKRAP!!!!
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lucky67
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Reasons I am not Voting for Hilary
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8/28/2016 9:42:31 AM
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GF --guess you back Colin Kanpernik too--man what country do you serve?
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GoneFishin
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Hey Mr Fly
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8/28/2016 10:40:45 AM
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I certainly don't support what he did. But, I do support his RIGHT to do what he did. In some countries, he might be imprisoned for sitting .....but, we are the USA and protect a persons right to sit.
There are those on the Right who believe in freedom of speech as long as it consistent with their narrow interpretation. You could be a leader in N. Korea or Iran.
I served in the military....did you?
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GoneFishin
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GOOFBUTT... DA
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8/28/2016 10:47:08 AM
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It was from Iran....the Shah just happened to be the leader. We did not ship the weapons so return the money. You must be a Trump supporter and agree with screwing vendors out of money they earned as Trump did numerous times. Your little mind doesn't allow you to see the big picture.
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oneshot
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Hey Mr Fly
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8/28/2016 11:13:26 AM
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Coastie???? Don`t they scrape pelican crap off bouys???
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GoneFishin
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Hey Ms Oneshot
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8/28/2016 1:36:17 PM
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You are correct. Are you having difficulty adjusting to adult life?
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wix
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Goofbutt
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8/28/2016 2:08:40 PM
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Wait, Goofb. Mr NFL WAS RAISED IN WHITE PRIVILEGE, he has no rights according to dimokraps of color persuasion. MR. BLM LOVER was adopted by a white couple and raised thusly! He's just trying to follow in o-BAMMIE'S footsteps.
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GoneFishin
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Ms Wixxie
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8/28/2016 2:15:45 PM
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What exactly is your point? Hodja the Socialist will be all over you for senseless posts.
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au67
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Reasons I am...Voting for Hilary
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8/28/2016 5:40:39 PM
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Well you really twisted yourself into a pretzel with that answer. All you had to say was, "I don't do write-ins. I always vote for the Democrat candidate!"
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GoneFishin
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Reasons I am...Voting for Hilary
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8/28/2016 5:53:17 PM
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I ran as a "write in" for School Board and won...write ins rock. Also, ran as a Republican for an State Assembly Seat and won...became a Democrat as I matured.....the GOP moved too far to the Right for me on social issues.
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oneshot
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Hey Ms Oneshot
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8/28/2016 9:08:15 PM
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No not at all. Just sitting around enjoying life.
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