Name:	Carlson -	Reply
Subject:	Ut oh Tulsi tells all! Hope she has good security
Date:	7/20/2025 12:37:35 PM

Wow, a woman with guys and scrupules.  Finally it happens!  

Name:	Lighthouse -	Reply
Subject:	Ut oh Tulsi tells all! Hope she has good security
Date:	7/20/2025 6:48:47 PM

Lots of Women have "guys" but she has GUTS.

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Ut oh Tulsi tells all! Hope she has good security
Date:	7/21/2025 10:25:54 AM

I for one am not remotely surprised at the illegal actions taken at the direction of Obama but there is zero chance he gets punished.  I even think there is little chance that Comey, Clapper, Brennan or Hillary get punished either.  Ordering the change of an intelligence document to state the opposite of what was believed in order to inflict political damage is 1,000 times worse than Watergate. 

But the govt media will refuse to cover it, DOJ will not prosecute and this will all fade away.  Sorry to be a naysayer and I truly hope I am wrong, but I seriously doubt it. One thing Trump should do is remove Obama's access to intelligence data.  He has proven he cannot be trusted with it.

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	Ut oh Tulsi tells all! Hope she has good security
Date:	7/21/2025 11:20:20 AM (updated 7/21/2025 11:21:21 AM)

Wow, we know Trump can't be trusted and now Obama. Country is really screwed up. At least with Watergate, the evidence was there and the Republican President was forced to resign and then was pardoned by Ford. 

Do you think Trump will pardon Obama after Obama kneels before the King and asks for forgiveness?

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Ut oh Tulsi tells all! Hope she has good security
Date:	7/21/2025 12:20:34 PM

Based on what we have already seen, there is plenty of evidence that Obama received an intelligence assessment that concluded no Russian collusion happened.  Obama, I am sure at the urging of Hillary Clinton, told Clapper to take it back and reissue it with the opposite conclusion, which actually happened.  Said info was then leaked to the media by Ben Rhodes who for some reason was present at this meeting.  Whistleblowers, including analysts that authored the original assessment are coming out of the woodwork in droves telling what happened and how angry they were at the time.

As for Trump not being trustworthy with American intelligence, the exact opposite is true.  I seriously doubt he will pardon Obama although I can see him directing DOJ to not indict him.  

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	Ut oh Tulsi tells all! Hope she has good security
Date:	7/21/2025 3:25:42 PM

Not exactly true from Trump history. He would never be issued a security clearance.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump%27s_disclosures_of_classified_information

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Wikipedia?!??!?!?!?
Date:	7/21/2025 3:48:55 PM

C'mon Goofy....really?!?!?

Name:	MrHodja -	Reply
Subject:	Wikipedia?!??!?!?!?
Date:	7/21/2025 5:50:01 PM

Ah, Wikipedia.  The MSNBC and CNN of the internet.  They do have some useful information but OMG the out and out leftist propaganda is sickening.

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	Wikipedia?!??!?!?!?
Date:	7/21/2025 6:53:41 PM

LOL!!!! !nstead of bitchin about the source, post the support that Trump can be trusted. 

Name:	MrHodja -	Reply
Subject:	You and The Writer of That Article MustBe Ignorant
Date:	7/21/2025 9:00:54 PM (updated 7/21/2025 9:02:00 PM)

Of the rules for classification. Plainly stated if the President does not consider it classified it is not. The President  can handle any classification of National Defense Information any way he wants, and in his judgement it is in the best interest of the United States, his sharing information carrying a  classification marking is a non-issue. 

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Wikipedia?!??!?!?!?
Date:	7/22/2025 8:10:39 AM

I think you may need to apologize to pmsnBS and cnnBS for the comparison.    Wilipedia cannot be trusted for anything that involves conservatives.  It is the mob of lies and distortions.

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	You and The Writer of That Article MustBe Ignorant
Date:	7/22/2025 10:50:44 AM

Too bad, we can't have an iintelligant discusion without you resorting to ignorant this...ignorant that. The point is would Trump be granted Security Clearance if he did not grant it to himself? And, the answer is NO.

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	You and The Writer of That Article MustBe Ignorant
Date:	7/22/2025 12:15:11 PM (updated 7/22/2025 12:26:42 PM)

So by your logic - should Biden have any/ever been allowed any security clearance since he stored his classified documents next to his Vett as well as at the Univ of Delaware and other locations.  Documents going back into his days in the Senate, well before his VP/President status?

I know you only wake up when a Republican is in office and nap like President AutoPen when a Democrat is in office so you probably missed those articles. 

I am sure it is also on Wikipedia if you want to look up Bidens mishandling of classified documents.

I think that may have also been around the time that they judged that Biden was basically too old and frail or some other excuse to not raid his home and rummage through Jills panties like they did to Trump.

I know your sources are usually limited to lefty sites - any thoughts on the declassification of documents showing that the Obama team basically had all of the known intelligence of the time rewritten to the opposite view to start the entire Trump Russia collusion narrative?   

I hope many of the bad actors get to go to jail for their actions, but will not hold my breath for them to get what they deserve.

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	You and The Writer of That Article MustBe Ignorant
Date:	7/22/2025 12:33:04 PM (updated 7/22/2025 12:38:01 PM)

Phil...If there is guilt prosecute the SOB. Doesn't matter the party...you like to get  hung up on party. I was pleased when Biden dropped out as his performance at the  debatewas an embarrassment. Watching Trump and his irrational behavior is also an embarrassment. But, the MAGA crowd loves the  8th  grade mentality of getting even.

Now, the Deputy Attny Gen Blanche , who was Trump's trial attorney, is going  to visit Maxwell in prison. How could Bondi close the file without interviewing her? I know you will give them a pass since  they are MAGA.

The question of Security Clearance goes beyond papers. Even our allies don't trust him. Never read this about Biden....

Can't Trust Trump

Name:	MrHodja -	Reply
Subject:	Read the subject and its finish in the post
Date:	7/22/2025 1:20:33 PM

The subject line is character-limited.  What I said was that you are ignorant of the rules.  A little touchy are you?

If these supposed breaches occurred after he became president, by definition they are not breaches because in our system he is the ultimate classification authority.  Someone else's OPINION that he shouldn't have revealed the information is irrelevant.

Another Goofy nothingburger.

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	Read the subject and its finish in the post
Date:	7/22/2025 2:09:04 PM (updated 7/22/2025 2:36:35 PM)

Question has nothing to do with his Presidency...If he were applying for a  security clearance as a Secret Service employee would he receive  the clearance. The  answer is NO.  CASE CLOSED.

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	You and The Writer of That Article MustBe Ignorant
Date:	7/22/2025 2:31:24 PM (updated 7/22/2025 2:38:16 PM)

I give no one a pass - as you love to point out my quote about throwing up for voting for Trump the first go around.

Hopefully they destroy everyone associated with Epstein - I have no use for people who abuse kids.  Personally I think people who harm children should be forced into really hard labor, but sadly our criminal system does not allow for a punishment that really fits the crime.

You seem to be fitting under the perfect defination these days of demonrats - blame the other side for what you do.

I like MM posted am disappointed that Epstein info is not being put before the light of day, or at least that which can be allowed to protect the children who were abused.  As for the abusers, there is not a punishment available that would fit in my mind - and if that includes Trump then let him go down with them.  But if that information did exist, with everything that Biden and Obama has attempted in pure fabrications and lies - why would they not use real information if it existed to destroy Trump once and for all?  I expect that you in your hatred are blinded by the obvious.

I find it laughable that you literally posted a link to claims that Trump and his "ties to Moscow" are causing allies concerns.  I could not get past the headline without having someone come into the office to check on me for the side splitting laugh it caused.  Besides if the best we can get is Clinton laundered Russia Russia Russia intel from our "allies" via things like the Steele Dossier - I think they damaged not only their right to be an ally but their right to use "intelligence" as well.

I would say fine- they dont want to share with us, we dont need to share back, I kinda like the term "FAFO"  they just have not fully gotten to the "find out" part yet.  I wonder how they would feel about us no longer sharing intel - I have a feeling that they need us more then we need them, just like with trade and tariffs.  US markets have long been on uneven footings and one way agreements that only favored the other nations, I say fine we can treat intel the same way, lets have an intel tariff.  

They respected Biden - who pissed money to the rest of the world and had to be told where to stand and what to say and to whom as well as having to be walked around by a Easter Bunny when he wandered away aimlessly.  

I would rather be feared vs respected if that required a return to the policies of Biden and Obama.

Having read further into the link you provided - it sounds like it was written by Obama during his Russia Russia Russia days. I would trust wikipedia more then the person who wrote this hack piece.

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	Read the subject and its finish in the post
Date:	7/22/2025 2:39:43 PM

And chances are neither would you.  Case Closed.

Name:	MrHodja -	Reply
Subject:	Read the subject and its finish in the post
Date:	7/22/2025 4:19:42 PM

SMH.  You know not what you speak.  Not going to waste any more time since you obviously don't want facts interfering with your burning desire to post anything anti-Trump, whether based in fact or ""I wish it were true".

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	Read the subject and its finish in the post
Date:	7/22/2025 5:09:42 PM

What facts do you base that on?

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	Read the subject and its finish in the post
Date:	7/22/2025 5:33:57 PM (updated 7/22/2025 5:41:29 PM)

About as much as you base your comment about Trump on!!!

You base your opinion on Trump on others posts here and elsewhere.  You feel that Trump could not pass a background / security check based on Russia Russia Russia information that was created from thin air by Oblamer, Bribem and Killery. 

I feel that your own posts here should cause you to fail any security clearance based on the fact that you are delusional at best, or in need of serious therapy at a minimum.  I wont say you are a threat to others, but I would not doubt it if you were on the news keying a Tesla or assualting someone in a red hat at Home Depot.

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	Read the subject and its finish in the post
Date:	7/22/2025 5:35:02 PM

You keep posting as  President he has security clearance.That is not the issue. The  issue could  he get security clearance if he  were hired as  a  Secret Service agent. I say with  his history of leaks and not returning top secret documents...the answer is  NO.

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	Read the subject and its finish in the post
Date:	7/22/2025 5:45:24 PM (updated 7/22/2025 5:47:00 PM)

Guess Bribem aint getting that secret service job either with no security clearance.

GFY - "I say" with  his history of leaks and not returning top secret documents...the answer is  NO.

You know I am glad that what you say means something, somewhere between Jack and Schiff.