Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Pencil Neck Schiff's Fraud Least of His Worries
Date:	8/12/2025 8:43:09 AM

So we know Pencil Neck lied about his residence in order to get a lower rate on his mortgage.  Will be a legal problem for him and cost him some money but it is nothing compared to what was released yesterday.  Turns out he held a staff meeting and announced he was planning to leak classified intelligence information to get Trump indicted.  One of his staff told him that was illegal and treasounous.  Other staff said they would never get caught.  He went ahead and leaked it despite being warned it was both illegal and committed treason.  

He better hope that they are not successful in overturning the auto pen pardons.  But we now know for sure he needed a preemptive pardon.  He is a traitor and a liar.

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Pencil Neck Schiff's Fraud Least of His Worries
Date:	8/12/2025 11:30:41 AM

Turns out another leftist idiot ChiCom stooge Eric Swalwell is also implicated in leaking the very same classified information.  I'm sure we can find similar quotes from him as well.  Didn't he also get a preemptive auto pen pardon?

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	Pencil Neck Schiff's Fraud Least of His Worries
Date:	8/12/2025 12:06:13 PM

Have not seen bang bang fang fang listed with a pardon from Biden - but knowning what we now know abotu people breaking the law to go after Trump - would not be suprised if he did.

Not hard to find examples of them screaming No one is above the law, except demonrats trying to get Trump.

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	Pencil Neck Schiff's Fraud Least of His Worries
Date:	8/12/2025 5:03:12 PM

Holy Cow - now we know why Piece of Schiff was so pissed - he did not get to be Director of CIA.  We all thought we dodged a land mine with just Hillary - can you imagine Hillary as President and Schiff in charge of the CIA?  

I know that GFY would probably wet himself with excitment at the thought - but I think we literally dodged something on the scale of the impact that killed off the dinosaurs.

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Pencil Neck Schiff's Fraud Least of His Worries
Date:	8/13/2025 9:43:33 AM

I can assure you that had he gotten the job all those burn bags with damning evidence of illegal and treasonous actions by the deep state would have gotten burned.  We not only dodged a wildly incompetent bullet but may also see some justice.

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	Pencil Neck Schiff's Fraud Least of His Worries
Date:	8/13/2025 11:06:31 AM

I will believe the justice part when it happens.  They burned Trump so bad with Russia Russia Russia - that I hope he learned his lesson on letting things continue as they always have.

I am still amazed that those burn bags are still there after so many years.  The people who put stuff in those bags had to know what damning information was in those.  I am suprised they were not destroyed daily or multiple times daily.  A few thoughts come to mind - the room was secret and no one knew to look / empty the bags, they never thought they would have to worry about it, or the person who was supposed to take care of it, left it knowing someone would eventually find it.

Regardless of reasons - I am glad they didnt get around to quick destruction like Hillary with her hammers and bleachbit.

Name:	lucky67 -	Reply
Subject:	Pencil Neck Schiff's Fraud Least of His Worries
Date:	8/13/2025 12:35:23 PM

knowingly making false claims on a federal loan application, misrepresenting residency, income, employment, to obtain more favorable rates, terms,  is a Federal Crime --18 Us Code 1014; penalties can run up to 3 years and fines up to $1 mill; then the IRS WILL GET INVOLVED; as an expert witness on mortgage fraud cases, i can tell you juries are not sympathetic on these crimes

Name:	Lifer -	Reply
Subject:	Pencil Neck Schiff's Fraud Least of His Worries
Date:	8/13/2025 12:44:20 PM

Here's my take.  They were secreted away in a room that the masters thought would not get discovered for years.  Then when they were dicovered they figured first reaction to be, "damn, these should have burned years ago" and tote them striahgt to the incinerator.  They were kept because they thought keeping them gave them sway over certain folks involved that might get cold feet or turn on them.  

It worked out well, them being the brilliant dummies "they" are.

Name:	lucky67 -	Reply
Subject:	Pencil Neck Schiff's Fraud Least of His Worries
Date:	8/13/2025 4:43:07 PM

correction to my previous post--penalties can be up to 30 years in prison

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Pencil Neck Schiff's Fraud Least of His Worries
Date:	8/13/2025 6:39:37 PM

You have to first get a conviction.  Not sure where this case will be brought but if it's anywhere around DC getting a conviction is going to be tough.  I just want to at least see the perp walk and his whining about all the legal fees.  Conviction will be icing on the cake.

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	Pencil Neck Schiff's Fraud Least of His Worries
Date:	8/13/2025 9:03:39 PM (updated 8/13/2025 9:04:08 PM)

Wow....that's bad stuff. He may join Trump as a convicted felon. Funny,  there are actually  some who support the felon and brag about him and law and order as though they go together. 

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Pencil Neck Schiff's Fraud Least of His Worries
Date:	8/13/2025 10:07:48 PM

Trust me, the mortgage fraud thing pales in comparison to the newly released information.  If true, the guy committed treason by illegally leaking classified information against the adivce of his staff.  I'll take a fake conviction for a phony charge compared to a real conviction for treason.  Any day of the week.  That is the difference isn't it?  Cobbling together a felony from a loan paid back versus leaking top secret intelligence to undermine a duly elected President.....all the same in your demented mind, right? You are such a clown I almost feel sorry for you....almost. 

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	Pencil Neck Schiff's Fraud Least of His Worries
Date:	8/13/2025 11:25:09 PM (updated 8/13/2025 11:25:36 PM)

Trump is lucky he wasn't prosecuted for treason when he encouraged the Jan 6 rioters to visit the Capitol. Or, what did the boxes stored at Mar Lago contain? Even a demented person knows the answer. I assume a self professed genius like you also knows the same answer.

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Pencil Neck Schiff's Fraud Least of His Worries
Date:	8/14/2025 8:39:51 AM

He told them to peacefully go to the Capitol....PEACEFULLY.  I notice you left out that seminal word because you get your information from the fake news.  I thought you leftists were all for "mostly peaceful" protests.  The documents at Mar-a-Largo were secured as requested by the FBI when they visited to look at them......as say, opposed to sitting in an open garage at Biden's house.  Goofy, if you think these things are comparable to creating fake intelligence, leaking real classified information and illegally undermining a duly elected President using phony lies then I don't know what to say. 

TDS is real.  TDS is a severe mental illness.  TDS causes a person to lose all touch with reality.  TDS causes a person to take the most ridiculous positions lacking any amount of critical thinking using facts, logic and reason.  You have it bad.

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	TDS
Date:	8/14/2025 9:16:16 AM

You have been a member for 19 years with 13,177 posts, how many positive comments have you posted about a Democrat? 

Name:	Lifer -	Reply
Subject:	TDS I know, I know the answer....
Date:	8/14/2025 10:06:30 AM

How many democrts did he praise?

ALL THAT DESERVED IT!!

I handled you light work MM.

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	TDS I know, I know the answer....
Date:	8/14/2025 2:33:01 PM

That's a fairly decent response.  I suspect I made a few over the years but not many.  Better question is how many times I was critical of  Republican.  That would be a much larger number. And as I have often pointed out, I have never voted for Trump in a primary.  

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	TDS
Date:	8/14/2025 2:34:11 PM

How many positive things have Democrats done over the last 19 years?  List them and I will gladly comment on them.

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Date:	8/14/2025 7:15:08 PM

MARTINI AND GF ARE IN AGRREMENT. NEITHER ONE HAS EVER VOTED FOR TRUMP IN A PRIMARY. 

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Date:	8/15/2025 11:19:56 AM

This is something I have stated many times on the Forum in the past so this is not exactly new information. 

The difference though is that once he was the nominee I fully supported him all three times.  You voted for Hillary, Biden and Harris....the first a corrupt, evil person, the second a dementia-addled buffoon who was wrong on everything even when his brain still functioned and the third was an incomprehensible, incompetent DEI hire who can't compose a sentence that makes sense let alone be President.

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Date:	8/15/2025 11:55:03 AM (updated 8/15/2025 11:57:42 AM)

Just for Martini.......For your bumper.  Enjoy the final weeks of summer at the lake.