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8/4/2004 3:05:27 PM
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I read with interest Aladucker's following statement under the Topic Goose Info; "There is no state regulation saying how far away you must be from a house while waterfowl hunting."
I could not believe that statement and conducted some internet research. Dang it, I think Aladucker is correct. I would of thought there would be some gun law or hunting provision that would have a restriction to the distance that a firearm could be legally discharged from a residence or occupied building. (Unless there are local Government laws such as county laws.) Someone please tell me there is such a law. If not, this is even crazier than Alabama not requiring safety inspections on motor vehicles.
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Aladucker
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Alabama Gun Laws
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8/4/2004 3:41:22 PM
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Trust me I have tried to find a regulation so I could have one to show law enforcement. But after a call to the Commissioner of Conservation in Montgomery he confirmed there is no set limit. Pretty odd to me. I would rather there be one. It would leave less room for error.
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TIVO
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sounds like a good topic
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8/4/2004 3:49:05 PM
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for....
Rick and Bubba...rick an bubba....crap, now that song's in my head.
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LifeTime Laker
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8/4/2004 4:15:15 PM
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That is strange since there is a law governing how close you can be to a road.
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rustyhook
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Alabama Gun Laws
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8/4/2004 4:54:49 PM
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feel free to sit up off my point and blow those geese away. only one requirement- get'em all.
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Aladucker
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Alabama Gun Laws
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8/4/2004 4:59:09 PM
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hahaha. Tell me when and where Rusty, I will come "exterminate" . hahaha
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stratman
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8/4/2004 11:13:12 PM
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That's pretty sad....
Extermination. I didn't realize that kind of thing still took place.
You ever see those geese flying around and honking? They are a very regal bird. They love people....and trust them....and will even eat out of your hands.
I don't understand it.....can't do much about it......but it doesn't make any sense to me.
The Indians had it right......only shoot what you need to eat.
Extermination just doesn't make any sense.
Knock yourselves out.
Stratman.....
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hosocat
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Alabama Gun Laws
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8/5/2004 9:55:10 AM
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Feb,
I don't know where you're from, but it appears that your mind has been warped by the "big brother government we'll take care of you, you poor incompetent soul" types. Specifically, let me address the policy in Alabama of not having vehicle inspections.
I've lived in states where vehicle inspections are required, and if you analyze the conditions of the vehicles on their streets rationally, you will find that their vehicles are no SAFER than vehicles on Alabama's roads. I stress SAFER, because I do not mean PRETTIER, which is generally what people who favor vehicle inspections want - pretty cars on the road so that they don't have to look at ugly old cars. If you can show me any data that indicates that Alabama's vehicles are less safe, resulting in more accidents than in states where vehicles are inspected, I'll eat my words. But I'll bet you can't.
The only thing that vehicle inspection requirements accomplish is to put more money in the pockets of corrupt mechanics who cheat unwitting motorists for work that does not need to be done. In particular, women are viewed by these unscrupulous mechanics as plums ripe for the picking, and vehicle inspections allow them a venue to steal money (gee lady, you and your kids won't be allowed back on the road unless you pay me $500 for a $95 brake job, and by the way I'm going to make you buy new shocks while I'm at it). Let's not even get into the loss of productivity in a society as everyone has to dedicate at least half a day a year (or even twice a year in ridiculous states like Virginia that require inspections every six months) to grovel to some inspection station weanie to get a sticker for your window.
Try to view the role of government, and specifically Alabama's supposedly backward rules, regulations, and policies with an open mind. I think you might find that just because something was done a certain way where you came from, it's not necessarily the only way to do things. I know rational analysis is difficult for those who have been brainwashed all their lives by the government nannies, but please try.
Hosocat
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lamont
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8/5/2004 10:03:27 AM
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Gee Hoso, tell us how you really feel about inspections and the government in general. Actually, I am in total agreement. When we used to have inspections, the mechanic would always find something wrong and your car would not pass until the work was done. So, you go to another mechanic, pay another inspection fee to find out something completely different is now wrong with a car that was operating perfectly the day before. Biggest ripp-off ever perpetrated on a dumbed down American public.
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LifeTime Laker
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Alabama Gun Laws
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8/5/2004 11:15:59 AM
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Hosocat,
You have not been around long enogh to know that feb is the ultimate elitist government beaurocrat. He fed at the public trough all his life, so knows nothing but the 'nanny state'. He also lives in VA, which from your post, I concude requires two inspections a year. An you didn't even mention the 'black market' that exists in all states which require inspections.
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Aladucker
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Alabama Gun Laws
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8/5/2004 3:08:43 PM
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Now don’t take that term (extermination) as me coming out there to kill every living thing in range. Not how it works with me. Any game I takes is consumed. I try to waste as little as possible. People ask why I hunt wild game when I can go to the store and buy meat. Well, if you these people have a problem with killing why don’t they eat Bocca burgers and save a cow. J I know people that kill just to kill. That is not that way to do it in my opinion. But you have to understand there is an overabundance of geese so the state actually looks at them as nuisance animals, that is the reason for the special season. At my work in Bham we have a flock of 50 + / - . They are worthless around here. They are not nice. They hiss and growl at everybody, they crap all over the sidewalk. Not saying you are fibbing Strat cause I believe they will eat out of your hand. They cause plenty of problems and it is that way with any place of business on Hwy 280 that has a pond or lake close to it. These are wild animals in the city because there are so many. Another problem is they are still considered migratory birds, but they don’t migrate. Heck, why would they need to? They have everything they need to live right here. Same principal with the deer hunting at Oak Mountain State Park. So many deer that the herd had to be thinned out. But we could go on about this for days. Why? Because we all have our separate opinions which is a good thing. At least we have had civil threads on this subject and no one has threatened to kill me! hahahaha But as I said before, I am not here to stir the pot, or “troll” , just tossing out my point of view.
Regards
Aladucker
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lamont
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8/5/2004 3:50:09 PM
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Now you've gone to far Aladucker. I'm sending PETA after you.
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Aladucker
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8/5/2004 3:56:25 PM
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OH LORD NO!!!!!!! Please lets not get that thread started!
hahaha
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Aladucker
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8/5/2004 3:59:34 PM
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Doesn’t PETA stand for People Eating Tasty Animals???
:-)
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LifeTime Laker
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8/5/2004 3:59:45 PM
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PETA = People Eating Tasty Animals
Aladucker if you kill more than you can eat, I will gladly take one off your hands.
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8/5/2004 4:01:16 PM
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Never thought on this Forum that Safety Considerations would be questioned by any posters. Then a simple post of interest turned into questions and some personal attacks.
Like the Politicians say – I am qlad you asked.
First to the post by the Extremist CEO - His comment “He fed at the public trough all his life” Yes Sir, Most of my adult life I had a career as a Civil Servant in The Department of Defense. I am pleased with my past career, and I am honored that I was able to serve. Here is what the food was like at the “public trough”. Entered the U.S. Army from the Great State of Alabama after graduating from Troy State University. Served in Viet Nam with the Combat Engineers in the 538th Engineer Company (Jungle Clearing). If you think that was cake served at the trough then request the SITREPs for that unit. Feeding sessions included firing shots in anger/fear, getting shot at, and calling in artillery, air support, and sadly medivac choppers. My non-active duty career was in the Department of Defense with the Army Materiel Command, Defense Nuclear Agency and at the Department of Defense. Responsible for buying everything that our sons and daughters in the Army needed from bullets to beans.
You Sir are nothing but a natt agitating me at every opportunity you can. It is obvious by your continuous buzzing on this Forum. Now please tell us what trough you have fed at or currently feasting at? You want because, unlike me, you are ashamed of your vocation and have never served anyone but your own sorry butt. Does anyone know what CEO does? He only attacks others since he is so insecure in his own life.
To Hosocat – I did not take your post as a personal attack, but you did raise a few issues that I will provide a personal opinion response. I had an Alabama vehicle license and registration for 17 years. I visit Alabama regularly and have family in that community. Own property in Alabama and specifically on Lake Martin. Lived in two other States for 23 years that require annual vehicle safety inspections (not 6 months). I have owned two to three vehicles at a time during that tenure and have failed the safety inspection twice. (Once with a burned-out tag light and once with a faulty emergency brake.) Both were legitimate. I had a safety inspection last Monday and it took a total of less than thirty minutes from my house through the inspection and on to my next destination. They perform a thorough inspection to include removing your hubs for a visual brake inspection. I keep my vehicles on an average of about eight years. Like I said, I visit Alabama and I do have decent eye sight. I can visit Walmart in Alex City and walk down a line of parked vehicle and spot at least two out every twenty-five that would fail a safety inspection just from bald tires or missing signals or lights. That is not a thorough inspection. I was in Alex City last September, and my parked truck was struck by a vehicle since its brakes would not stop it while parking.
I will not address a number of other issues that were mentioned or touched upon by CEO or Hoscat since they are somewhat blatant and not Germaine.
Bottom Line - If it saves one life, it is worth a little expense and trouble. Please remember that all government is not bad. How about the cut-backs in our National Security Agencies that may of caused us preventing the terrorist attacks?
Oh well, I will go back and hunker down in my foxhole and wait for the incoming.
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chazzman
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8/5/2004 4:20:11 PM
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Welcome home!
www.174ahc.org/
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rustyhook
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Alabama Gun Laws
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8/5/2004 4:39:18 PM
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did i miss something? how did this thread go from shooting geese to car inspections? guess i missed something.
aladucker, please shoot the hell out of those geese. i know the special season is sept. 1-15. have been hissed at in my yard by geese and plan to show them how i hiss back. after i hiss back all the evidence will be gone in quick. food for possiums, somewhere. dark meat not fit to eat.
yall have a great day.
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hosocat
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8/5/2004 5:09:59 PM
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Feb,
No offense meant to you personally, I just like lively discussion. I'm going to disagree to you on inspections being worth it, even "if only one life is saved". Many things can save one life. The question becomes one of whether the cost and intrusion on liberty and further degradation of the natural and historical requirement in the United States (the last nation on earth to continue to hold out any hope for the individual against the collective onslaught of the rest of the world) for members of society to "self regulate" and be personally responsible for their actions is worth the saving of "one life". If I look, I can come up with many cases where I could save "one life" with just a little intrusion upon others. If everyone were forced to ride public transportation we could save "one life". If everyone were forced to turn in all firearms we could save "one life". If everyone were just taxed an extra few thousand dollars a year to fund the welfare state we could save "one life". If we would force all people to follow the path of Islam we could save "one life".
The list of "wants" is endless, and any intrusion on the individual and their liberties should be fought when there is even a shadow of doubt as to the wisdom of implementing that intrusion.
How's that for a rant? Just my opinion. I could be wrong...but I'm not.
Hosocat
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8/5/2004 5:39:05 PM
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No problem from this end Hosocat. I will listen to your view and respect your opinion even if not in total agreement. I am not so much worried about your car, mine or most others. I will have to say that there is another set of others out there that will drive an unsafe vehicle and endanger our lives, our familes lives, their passngers and even themselves. Plenty that will spend their last $15.00 in their wallet on liquor before replacing their windshield wipers. There is some waste in Government both State and Federal. There are some out there that are good stewards of the tax payer's dollars. My experience has shown that to be the exception as opposed to the rule or majority. The same is true throughout many walks of life. The Government is just an easy target for the broad brush. We often overlook that it is performed by many dedicated public servants that are frequently underpaid and under appreciated.
I would enjoy your debate and would like to hear your and other's opinions of where Government should be cut. Remember we cut the heck out of many aspects of the Federal Govt. with "Gore' s Reinvention" and where did that leave us? I will put your opposition to vehicle safety inspections on your side of the chalk board. I would like to cut Govt. in the aspects of managing toll roads and lotteries, but then we would not have toll roads and lotteries. I would like to do away with Social Security and cut those Federal workers and managers. Of course that is a personal thing since my time at the "feeding trough" left me with and offset that takes the almost $800.00 a month that I would get in Social Security and cuts it to around $200.00 a month. Thats the only segement of our working society that happens to Federal retired employees.
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8/5/2004 5:41:04 PM
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Should of read "not good stewards of tax payer's dollars".
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LifeTime Laker
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Geez Hosocat
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8/5/2004 6:24:08 PM
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Welcome to the VRWC!!
Well said.
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JUA
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Hey stratman!
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8/6/2004 7:01:12 AM
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Sounds like a way to get rid of the ducks listening to kareoke under the docks at Chucks....
Just kiddin, but couldn't resist.
Sounds like an oversight in the law to me. I also have wondered what the legal limit of Jack Daniels is for duck hunters in TN. We don't have a law for that up here.
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lamont
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8/6/2004 7:39:59 AM
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Please don't bring up social security. It is such a great program that our congressmen and legislators, the very people who think it is such a great idea for the great unwashed, have opted themselves out. By the way, have you seen what our legilators retirement package looks like? Disgusting!
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lakebum
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Lakeman...
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8/6/2004 7:55:32 AM
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will get you...
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Z71girl
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8/6/2004 1:51:19 PM
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Guess they didn't think about that one.
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8/6/2004 11:33:34 PM
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Hey chazzman, That is a great link. Thanks for sharing it with us. Some of those sights were all to familiar. To this day I still love the sound of a huey approaching. LIke a Harley - that most distinctive sound.
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