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Name:   sagetek - Email Member
Subject:   APC Martin Level updating
Date:   7/18/2007 9:34:02 AM

It is kind of interesting that the newly updating graph shows the level stabilizing at 480 feet. How can they stop it there, if they couldn't stop it from dropping the past two months?

URL: http://www.alabamapower.com/lakelevel/detailspage.asp?Plant=Martin

Name:   raysea - Email Member
Subject:   APC Martin Level updating
Date:   7/18/2007 9:58:45 AM

Two possible explanations:

1.) Their data and projections are not worth the paper they are written on.

and the one that I prefer to believe,

2.) They have (and always have had) more conrol than they would want everyone to know.

Good post and good question. I am sure the APCO "protectors" on this forum will be all over this.



Name:   BiggerDog - Email Member
Subject:   APC Martin Level updating
Date:   7/18/2007 11:05:16 AM

The consistent rain over the last 2-3 weeks and its virtual nonimpact on the level absolutely proves that they could keep the lake higher if they were so inclined to do so. There is no intelligent person who can argue that at this point.



Name:   PillPipe - Email Member
Subject:   APC Martin Level updating
Date:   7/18/2007 12:06:19 PM

the way it was explained to me was that consistant rain over the lake doesn't make much of a difference unless its a lot of rain, like several inches. where we need it to rain for it to help the lake is upstream, because that way we get the accumulation of rain as it runs downstream.

i don't know if it has been consistantly raining upstream or not.



Name:   BiggerDog - Email Member
Subject:   APC Martin Level updating
Date:   7/18/2007 1:14:59 PM

You are absolutely correct, but it has rained more upstream at the lake. Bham and east Alabama have gotten 3 or so inches in July already.



Name:   LifeTime Laker - Email Member
Subject:   APC Martin Level updating
Date:   7/18/2007 1:52:30 PM

Rain in B'ham has NO affect on our lake. Look at a map. Our watershed consists of not only the river but the creeks also. None of those creeks go anywhere near b'ham. I have seen so many times on here about rain in north GA. Our watershed is west GA below I-20 and east central Alabama. How many of you have ever driven I-20 thru west GA. Did you cross the Tallapoosa River? NO. You do cross the Little Tallapoosa. It's headwaters are just barely north of I-20 and the Tallapoosa's head waters are south of I-20. The watershed for any impoundment can not be any further than local runoff away from the headwaters of its source. It is physically and geographically impossible. Remember we are talking watershed, not water table. There is a big difference.

As for the rains we have had, they have been way to localized and scattered to have any significant impact. Three different times I have been on the lake during these rains/storms and managed to go around them, or stay put while they passed on the opposite side of the lake. In order to have an impact it will have to rain over the entire watershed for days on end. An afternoon thunderstorm over a small portion of the lake may not even replace that days evaporation.

Streamgager, are you still visiting the site since going back home? If so please correct me if I am wrong.



Name:   LKBR - Email Member
Subject:   APC Martin Level updating
Date:   7/18/2007 4:05:37 PM

The level of Jordan is rising and so is the level of the river at Montgomery.

http://water.sam.usace.army.mil/gage/act/ge21.txt

Any water that makes it to the Coosa has an effect on Martin because it effects the Ala. river.



Name:   LifeTime Laker - Email Member
Subject:   APC Martin Level updating
Date:   7/18/2007 4:14:12 PM

That is true this year because of the drought, but under normal conditions it make no difference.



Name:   8hcap - Email Member
Subject:   APC Martin Level updating
Date:   7/18/2007 5:38:13 PM

I agree with your assessment of the watershed. I have always thought it was North GA - guess I could have looked at a map, duh.

I saw Lake Allatoona for teh first time last winter - the drawdown there must be 15-20 feet or more. Isn't it interesting that this corp operated lake has more or less normal levels this year?

Ah, another conspiracy for you to debunk.

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Name:   LifeTime Laker - Email Member
Subject:   APC Martin Level updating
Date:   7/18/2007 6:05:25 PM

LMAO... Like I need any encouragement!! But I appreciate the the thought. Obviously today has been a slow day, as witnessed by the number of posts....lol. And not an ugly one in the bunch. It's mav's fault, he got me in touch with my sensitive side....lol.

I grew up in this area and have been in all these woods along our watershed so I guess I have a rather unique outlook. We used to ride over while they were building and clearing for Harris and then to watch the water come up. My Dad tried to buy a LARGE tract of land from a friend of his as they were building over there. They never could come to terms unfortunately. What seemed like robbery then sure would have one sitting pretty today. Ah.. hindsight. Seems like that tract had a couple of thousand feet of future waterfront, but Dad was concerned it was on the 'wrong side of the lake'.







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