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Name:   The Old Vet - Email Member
Subject:   Charter HD
Date:   11/2/2007 10:09:01 AM


As I understand it . . . on November 12 Charter will be adding five HD channels. They are not new they are just the HD flavor of existing Channels.


THE HD CHANNELS ARE:

760 - FSN & FOX Sports South
761 - MTV
762 - A & E
763 - History
764 - The Movie Channel ( You must subscribe to Charter's Movie View )


ADDITIONALLY, THEY WILL BE ADDING SIX NEW CHANNELS:

196 - The Sportsman Channel
189 - Fine Living
199 - Fox Business
298 - TV One
299 - American Life TV
399 - Baby First TV


THE HD CHANNELS WE CURRENTLY RECEIVE:

773 - ESPN
780 - ABC ( WCFT Channel 9 )
783 - NBC ( WVTM Channel 13 )
784 - Public (WCIQ Channel 7 )
786 - FOX - ( WBRC Channel 6 )

Charter has all of the NETWORKS covered except CBS.

Why can't Charter give us CBS ?? The folks at the Alex City office don't want to talk about it and the website doesn't answer eMails. And since that's the case, THE ANSWER MUST BE SOMETHING WE WOULD ALL LIKE TO KNOW. Hmmm.

What do you think - wouldn't you like to have CBS HD ?


Support the troops

Don




Name:   greycove - Email Member
Subject:   Charter HD
Date:   11/2/2007 11:03:53 AM

In Auburn, we get CBS via Charter out of Columbus, Georgia. At lake, on DishtTV get CBS out of Montgomery. Surely Charter could get CBS out of Montgomery.



Name:   The Old Vet - Email Member
Subject:   Charter HD
Date:   11/2/2007 11:14:54 AM

Oops !!!

I'm sorry - my mistake.

We get "regular" CBS out of Montgomery.

I meant to say CBS HD





Name:   ATLANTA TRANSPLANT - Email Member
Subject:   Charter HD
Date:   11/2/2007 5:04:36 PM

i have called them re bs snce last summer. it's got to be some $$ issue for them.

almost all pga golf is cbs and football, don't getme started.


proud to support the troopsd




Name:   ATLANTA TRANSPLANT - Email Member
Subject:   Charter HD
Date:   11/2/2007 5:05:53 PM

we wish

see yaasunday?



Name:   Carnac - Email Member
Subject:   CBS HD
Date:   11/2/2007 9:44:15 PM

We get our HD service from Charter out of Alex City. I can view CBS HD if I use my TV tuner to select channel 93-1. The problem with that, for us, is that the audio runs five seconds ahead of the video. It makes me crazy to hear the announcers talking about how the football play ended before the video gets to that point.

We've reported to Charter in Alex City what I've said here a couple of months ago and there hasn't been anyone to call and explain why I can receive it on my TV tuner but not on Charter's HD set top box.

I'm strongly considering going back to DirecTV. I never had any trouble with their service but DSL cost a lot more through them.



Name:   Webmaster - Email Member
Subject:   CBS HD
Date:   11/3/2007 12:10:28 AM

It may be that the cable company gets a bad signal from the terrestrial signal too and that could be why they don’t offer CBS HD to subscribers. But that is just a guess. If anyone else receives an audio delay for a CBS terrestrial signal (off-air) please reply to this thread.

I'll do some research on DirecTV HD service for Lake Martin.



Name:   peruecreek - Email Member
Subject:   CBS HD
Date:   11/3/2007 9:00:42 AM

I have had Directv HD service for almost three years at the lake. It is a great package except for the major networks. You are allowed to subscribe to out of market networks for Fox, ABC and NBC but not CBS. You will receive the New York feeds for those three networks in HD if you subscribe to the Directv HD package. You cannot receive CBS on Directv at the lake unless you have a waiver from either WRBL in Columbus, Georgia or WAKA in Montgomery. On the Directv website it states that you should be able to receive a "moderate" signal from each of these. This is all politics as the antenna site for WRBL is more than 70 miles from the lake and the WAKA antenna site is near Selma. You will have to make due with local cable to get CBS.



Name:   Webmaster - Email Member
Subject:   DirecTV Research - Lake Martin
Date:   11/3/2007 12:51:46 PM

Thanks peruecreek for providing information about subscribing to out of market networks. It’s too bad about CBS as it can be difficult to get good reception that far away. I live in Knoxville, TN and people in Gatlinburg commonly get waivers from the Knoxville network affiliates because there is a mountain in the way. If you have provided a good faith effort to receive their signal but cannot receive it, they should provide a waiver. The negative part about out of market channels is you don’t get local news broadcasts for Alabama.

DirecTV offers local channels for Birmingham but NOT Montgomery. Four of the nine Birmingham channels offered are HD (NBC, ABC, CBS and FOX). The part of Lake Martin where your service is located affects your eligibility to receive a local channel through the satellite dish. They will probably validate your service address zip code to determine eligibility. I did some research on the DirecTV site and here is how it breaks down. Basically, if you don’t live in Coosa County you’ll have to find out your eligibility for the out of market networks (New York).

Zip Code: 35010 – Alexander City
– Coosa County: Yes (Birmingham)
– Tallapoosa County: No Local Channels Available
– Elmore County: No Local Channels Available

Zip Code: 36024 – Eclectic – No Local Channels Avaliable

Zip Code: 36853 – Dadeville – No Local Channels Available

Montgomery Zip Codes – No Local Channels Available

The ability to receive out of market networks (New York) is another matter. This may depend on your location. For example people in Eclectic are closer to Montgomery.

DirecTV receivers do have terrestrial RF input for local channels so you can receive ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX, PBS, etc. over the air seamlessly into the tuner. But you will get no better signal than you do now with your current antenna setup, everything the same. The reason why DirecTV offers local channels via dish in the first place is because most people do not want to go to the trouble and expense of an antenna. HD signals come from the same types of aluminum antennas that the 480i signals come through and HD signals are directional just like the old signals. So sometimes fine tuning is required with a rotator (or go outside and move twist your antenna manually). Basically all the old tricks apply here: Get a larger antenna, put it higher, tune by direction and add a powered signal booster. That’s about all you can do.

DirecTV now offers 70 HD channels and they promise another 30 by winter. You need to have their new receivers to get these channels as they stream in MPEG4 video format. Old receiving equipment supports only MPEG2 video. That basically means they can now compress video with better quality and get more channels in the available bandwidth they have allocated to them by the FCC.

DirecTV no longer allows other manufacturers to make their receiving equipment. Today, they prefer you to lease it from them. This costs no more money and can provide some benefit of inexpensive replacement your equipment fails. This HD upgrade to the new receiver comes with a new 5 LNB dish they call the “SlimLine”. But this dish is bigger than the older one and is more horizontally oval in shape. The new receivers are the HR20 (DVR), HR21 (DVR) and H20. The downside to this lease is DirecTV no longer is using the popular Tivo service for DVR functions (they wrote their own software).

The good news is DirecTV is much better about helping you with installations than they were in years past. Keep in mind that the installers are independent contractors and will install the dish in the easiest possible position for them. If you have a special installation requirement you will need to either check beforehand if they can accommodate you, find a contractor that can help you or do it yourself. For example they pretty much come out with a ladder to get on your roof and a posthole digger to put a pole in the yard. If you want your dish on your gable (requiring a bucket truck or lift) or hidden under a polystyrene rock (to abide by neighborhood restrictions), you will need to do some contractor research beforehand.

I have the HR10-250 made by Hughes. This receiver went out of production two years ago but it is popular because it is easy to upgrade capacity yourself and add features that DirecTV did not intend for you to have. It runs the Tivo software and this makes it popular too. These are sold new for $1,200 but the going price on ebay is only a couple of hundred for a used one. The downside of this receiver is it only picks up the MPEG2 broadcasts which amount to only ten HD channels. DirecTV is not going to offer the newer HD channels in the MPEG2 stream for any old receiver.

If you are interested in DirecTV DVR receiver hacks and capacity upgrade kits for the HR10-250 visit www.DVRUpgrade.com. By hacks I do not mean stealing service… I’m talking about adding features like web server remote programmability, extracting video from the drive and disabling callback functions.

If you want to increase your DirecTV DVR capacity, regardless of the model visit www.Weaknees.com.

Personally, after finding out my old receiver cannot receive 70 HD channels that are currently offered, I’m looking at an upgrade myself.

If you have further questions or updates to my information feel free to reply.




Name:   The Old Vet - Email Member
Subject:   DirecTV Research - Lake Martin
Date:   11/3/2007 1:43:35 PM

Thank you for that fantastic report. WOW !!!

I think when you said, "DirecTV now offers 70 HD channels and they promise another 30 by winter," that says it all.

I'm looking.



Name:   au67 - Email Member
Subject:   Dish Network
Date:   11/4/2007 5:49:30 PM

If you live in Dadeville and have Dish Network, you can get the local channels from Montgomery, but they're not broadcast in HD.







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