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Maverick
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Ethanol Plant Article
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2/23/2007 11:37:03 PM
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Found this to be interesting reading, it was on the LM website homepage under the scrolling News section right above the Search box, thought I would pass it along:
In all likelihood the process used to manufacture ethanol in the Tallapoosa County Regional Industrial Park won’t be the spoiler. That is, as long as the new technology that exists to greatly reduce or eliminate particulates and odor/aroma is designed and built into the proposed plant as promised.
The spoiler role would be Dadeville’s twenty-eight year old wastewater facility and aged sewer line. Unless this treatment plant gets a costly and significant upgrade well before the plant begins production our lake will be exposed to high risk. Two things are certain. The stakes are very high for our lake, and Tallapoosa County desperately needs significant additional revenue. Those two certainties are not mutually exclusive. We can protect our lake while the county and City of Dadeville would reap the financial rewards. All entities need to work as one team to achieve both worthy goals.
We can’t afford to allow the quality of the water in Lake Martin to be reduced. CALM believes that we should be making preparations to improve the existing quality where necessary and raise regulatory standards to protect our lake for generations to come. If, after a somewhat lengthy application process, Alabama’s Department of Environmental Management (ADEM) approves Lake Watch of Lake Martin’s request to classify our lake as an Outstanding Alabama Waterway (OAW) the standards bar on water quality will be raised. That will be the best thing for this area’s only real economic engine and it should ensure that when we leave this earth our children and grandchildren would inherit what they deserve.
The residents surrounding Lake Martin must require that all of the parties (to include major investor(s), economic development alliance, county commission, city council, and industrial development authority) perform proper, and extra, due diligence before the final decision is made. All of us will greatly regret if, looking at the rear-view mirror, we find that a major mistake was made along the way to a decision.
Note: CALM’s chairman is a member of the board of directors of the Lake Martin Area Industrial Development Authority, a member of the executive committee of the Middle Tallapoosa Clean Water Partnership, and chairman of Tallapoosa County’s Community Finance Committee.
Dave Heinzen
Chairman, Coalition of Associations at Lake Martin
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Osms
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Ethanol Plant Article
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2/24/2007 9:49:20 AM
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You've probably read the posts about two weeks ago on the forum and the attached newspaper articles. Dadeville already has a treatment plant problem (with EPA violations) and we all need to be very vigilant of the this local situation. To gain 40 low paying jobs Tallapoosa County may wind up giving away the lake if we're not careful. They've already tried to build a chicken plucking plant in Alex City complete with 150 illegals +/camp followers--that one was defeated.
Guess we could all grow a corn patch, cause there's no corn grown in this part of the world.
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FOI
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Just the Facts
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2/26/2007 8:05:41 AM
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The Chicken Plant was not a plucking plant. It was to be a deboneing plant. I heard from people who wanted to work at this plant, who had lost jobs here locally and did not want to travel out of town. They were not hispanic. But for the people who beleive we do not have hispanics in the area already, just go to Walmart on the weekend.
Beleive it or not this area needs manufacturing jobs to keep the area growing. WE need more industry in our area, we have lost a lot of jobs in the last few years and will probally lose some more in the near future.
Like Jack Webb said Just the Facts.
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Osms
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Just the Facts
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2/26/2007 8:37:08 AM
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I too, agree that we need more jobs in the area, but we don't need the wrong kind of jobs. The chicken plant was turned down after the school board explained to the authorities how much it would cost the school system (taxpayers) to accommodate the new illegal immigrants' children the plant would bring to the area as employees. The article said that the plant owners would hire and import the Latino workers and their families. The article also quoted authorities of other cities where this company had plants and those cities gave a very negative impression of what the plant offered.
Yes, we need jobs--but not the jobs other cities don't want and not minimum wage jobs, and not jobs that pollute the water and increase taxes.
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LifeTime Laker
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How is this relevant?
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2/26/2007 10:22:06 AM
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"Yes, we need jobs--but not the jobs other cities don't want and not minimum wage jobs, and not jobs that pollute the water and increase taxes."
Do you think the ethanol plant is going to pay minimum wage? pollute the water? raise your taxes?
Even if they did pay mini wages, is that not better than NO wages. If you don't have a job, even a minimum wage job in manufacturing is a starting point to learn job skills and increase your employability to others. Everything I have read is that this is going to be high tech venture and I am sure it will pay better than mini wage.
And you using the pollute the water argument just shows ignorance and arrogance. The water is already being 'polluted' at times. So should all Dadeville residents move away so the treatment plant won't ever be overloaded again? It has been happening for years and you didnt even know it, so it obviously did GREAT HARM! Now that you do know, all progress should just stop?
And the raising taxes argument is even more ignorant. Please explain to me how providing jobs will raise your taxes. I seem to remember from economics that when you raise the tax base, it raises tax revenues. More income means more money spent = greater taxes collected.
And if you think the Hispanics would have to be 'imported' to accomplish any task, then you obviously have NEVER been to Alex City. Or any other town in America for that matter.
It seems to me that there are some folks who once they achieve their 'dream', all progress should stop. No more growth, no more development, no more anything!! I've got mine so all yall can go pound sand!!
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Osms
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LTL
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2/26/2007 2:25:17 PM
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1. Taxes could be increased to pay for a new or improved sewage treatment plant. Citizens of Dadeville will pay for that plant--I'm not one.
2. No, I didn't know that the treatment plant dumped raw sewage into Lake Martin, but now that I do know it, you can bet your rear end I'm concerned and interested to know what will happen.
3. I repeated what was published in the newspapers about the owner bringing in immigrants to work in the plant--did you read that???
4. A decent McDonald's will provide 40 jobs; what this area needs are career jobs like the auto plant. You have to weigh the benefits against the negative impact of the proposed plant. I certainly don't have all the necessary information to make the decision--and I don't think you do either.
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I am also not comparing high tech manufacturing jobs to Mcjobs. I am quite certain that you had to crawl before you walked, Dadeville must do the same. You are against new industry because it may overwhelm the treatment facillity and rasie your taxes, yet the same thing is already happening and you want something done. How do you suppose it is going to get done? The sewage treatment fairy? NO, the only way is with more revenue AKA higher taxes. OH wait, I almost forgot, you want more industry like the 'auto plant'. Do you think that auto plants dont produce wastewater? Since Honda came to Lincoln they have had to upgrade both potable and wastewater facillities to the tune of millions. NOBODY is compaining cuz they are ecstatic to have the JOBS, which equate to more revenue.
And as I remember it, the 'chicken plant' was only going to 'import' the labor if there was a need to. I don't think there would be.
For now I will take my fallback position #1.
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Osms
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LTL
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2/26/2007 8:59:59 PM
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I say again, I don't live in Dadeville so my taxes won't go up, but something is going to have to be done about the treatment plant, with the plant or without--I agree with you on that--or did you agree with that.
You should have been at the Alex City meeting when they turned down the chicken plant, because they sure needed someone with ability to read between the lines to counter the recommendation of the Board of Education. However, it seems they got along just fine anyway.
It seems you have a dog in this hunt--and I just have an interest in seeing that the best thing is done for all concerned, so I will respectfully not respond to you on this subject any further.
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| Name: |
Osms
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LTL
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2/26/2007 9:00:02 PM
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I say again, I don't live in Dadeville so my taxes won't go up, but something is going to have to be done about the treatment plant, with the plant or without--I agree with you on that--or did you agree with that.
You should have been at the Alex City meeting when they turned down the chicken plant, because they sure needed someone with ability to read between the lines to counter the recommendation of the Board of Education. However, it seems they got along just fine anyway.
It seems you have a dog in this hunt--and I just have an interest in seeing that the best thing is done for all concerned, so I will respectfully not respond to you on this subject any further.
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