Name:	Rock1 -	Reply
Subject:	Wakeboarders don't need a slough
Date:	6/14/2016 8:18:56 AM (updated 6/14/2016 8:20:40 AM)

I been on the lake since 1964 we live up in a slough.  We always stayed in the slough to barefoot and slalom. surfers, wakeboarders do not need slick water.  Stay on the main drag tubers also stay on the main lake away from the piers.  

These wake board boats put out massive wakes running 15-20 mph.  I just fear one day having to put up with NO WAKE zones in the sloughs; this will screw up the lake.  

Name:	Samdog -	Reply
Subject:	Wakeboarders don't need a slough
Date:	6/14/2016 11:43:41 AM

I agree it is important that we do not have "no-wake" zones popping up everywhere. The only people respecting the no-wake zones are the same folks who understand the current situation. Wakeboarders gonna be wakeboarders....

Name:	happy at the lake -	Reply
Subject:	Wakeboarders don't need a slough
Date:	6/14/2016 12:30:05 PM

I sure agree about tubers. Tubers should never enter a slough. You can do that anywhere and it is more fun with a few waves.  My young kids like to wakeboard and we really can't do that in rough water.  A slough can help them with the rough waves. Maybe a more experienced wake boarder can do it out in the big water.  We should really all be considerate of others and I know my family tries to make the lake enjoyable for everyone.

Name:	Samdog -	Reply
Subject:	Wakeboarders don't need a slough
Date:	6/14/2016 2:43:12 PM

Are you not concerned about the damage it causes to property?

Name:	Malibu -	Reply
Subject:	Wakeboarders don't need a slough
Date:	6/14/2016 4:50:16 PM

I never post anything on here but given all the discussion surrounding a subject that I like to do "surfing/wakeboarding", I'll add my 2 cents.  This all goes back to what we experience every day in life-----common courtesy (which is sometimes lacking in society and on the lake).  We've all had experiences on the water with people cutting in front of us, being dangerous, or not using common sense----the same goes for wakeboarding/surfing.  I'm a firm believer of staying out of small sloughs while surfing/wakeboarding but some people lacking common courtesy are usually thinking more about themselves than us with docks/docked boats.  Given the fact that those people will most likely continue the string, what about if Coley added a map on his app with less populated areas that are good for surfing/wakeboarding.  The area that I visit every weekend is across the main body of water from x-Pleasure Point.  I'm sure that there are a dozen areas that are good for surfing/wakeboarding that we can publicize on the app.  Just my 2 cents on an idea that may keep a few boats away from docks.  

Name:	John C -	Reply
Subject:	Wakeboarders don't need a slough
Date:	6/14/2016 5:21:07 PM

hmmm.... a feature on my app that shows good water?? Interesting.

It would be easy enough to make a map that shows areas away from civilization. But what if someone is in your favorite slough? I remember growing up we'd go over to the ski club slough across from Kowaliga and you'd somtimes have to wait to get in there and make a run. Maybe a feature that could show other users in the area, their position, etc?

Interesting. I am always up for ideas / uses for my app.

Name:	10toLife -	Reply
Subject:	Wakeboarders don't need a slough
Date:	6/14/2016 9:11:06 PM

We too have a Wakeboard boat. We do try to be cognizant of property as we have people zooming within 15 feet of our dock making massive waves with their Pontoons and Cruisers. All boats can make large wake depending on the speed and planing hulls. It is certainly irritating when there is the whole lake and folks feel like they need to buzz your dock --   but its reality. 

Admittedly when the bags are full for weight and wake --the waves can be much bigger than anything a normal boat can produce--  and we do it in a part of the lake where there are no houses or we are very far from docks. But you do need calmer water to wakeboard and you can find sloughs or parts of the lake that are uninhabited to do it. The problem is ---as Malibu says-- most people are generally self centered and don't think about other boaters or property owners. If it wasn't a wake boarder it would be a skiier or a bass boat or a Cobalt cruiser.  

No one should be cruising a slough to wakeboard , ski, tube, sight see or other wise if they are creating a large wake. Nor should boaters buzz docks.  I have also noticed "no wake" doesnt mean much to most people.  At Marinas where there is a no wake (Anchor Bay for instance) people are making a wake -- going at a fair clip rather than no wake. Those boat owners there must get sick of it.  At Chimney Rock people zoom in and out of boats like they have ZERO sense. We come from Florida where there is no wake in much of the St Johns at certain times of the year (manatees) No wake means barely moving.... and you will get ticketed there. Its excruciating in the winter months on the river and even into early spring but there is a good reason for it. It really is a ME world .. and thats' really the problem. Sad and unlikely to change. 

Name:	HARRY -	Reply
Subject:	Wakeboarders don't need a slough
Date:	6/14/2016 11:17:57 PM

Hopefully parents will teach young riders to respect others property and be respectful and that it's not all about making sure they get to do everything they want to do at the expense of others.

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	An app is a terrible idea!!
Date:	6/15/2016 9:34:53 AM

If John C makes an app with areas conducive to wake surfing then my favorite haunts may get too crowded.  :-)  Just so you know John, there are no good spots in the Sandy Creek area, I wouldn't even bother looking, you can absolutely trust me on this. 

On a more serious note, we never wake surf in areas where there are houses and docks and are lucky we have several spots fairly close to our house that work.  Other areas of the lake are more problematic as there are fewer spots where there are no houses.  Boaters that wake surf close to docks or in narrow sloughs are ignoramouses.  And by law, they are responsible for any damage they cause but proving it could be a challenge.  You would almost have to video them and the damage happening at the same time.  Not an easy task.

Finally and sadly, I am afraid you are preaching to the choir on the Forum.  It is most certainly the case that the people that do this are not regulars here.  Hope this message reaches them but not sure the Forum will do the trick.

Name:	John C -	Reply
Subject:	An app is a terrible idea!!
Date:	6/15/2016 3:58:28 PM

ha ha!!!!!

Name:	Samdog -	Reply
Subject:	Wakeboarders -If you think your kid is wake pro.
Date:	6/15/2016 4:30:06 PM

Watch this....SuperTramp Centurion

Name:	WAKINitUP!! -	Reply
Subject:	Wakeboarders don't need a slough
Date:	6/15/2016 7:32:47 PM

Apparently you don't wakeboard. I like calm water to wakeboard just as much as I do when I'm on a slalom. I invite wakeboarders  to my slough. I enjoy the show.

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Wakeboarders don't need a slough
Date:	6/16/2016 9:16:11 AM

While I agree that calm water is the best when wakeboarding, by law a boater is responsible for damage caused by their wake.  So I stay away from homes and docks, especially narrow sloughs out of respect for other people's property.  Not everyone, especially in a slough where the water is shallower, can use boat lifts.  I don't think this is about liking or not liking wakeboarding or wake surfing, it is about common courtesy which is apparently not all that common these days.  

Boats and wakes have always been an issue on lakes and I have designed and built my docks to deal with the waves that are common to where my house is located (near the end of a slough where we rarely get big waves).  If on big water you have to expect bigger waves and should plan accordingly.  If you don't you can expect problems because that is the reality of owning a home on a lake.  I have little sympathy for someone that ignores that reality.  But living up a narrow slough is a different matter and I can understand people being upset with wake surfing within a short distance of their docks and boats.