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Osms
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Note to jlazc....
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3/24/2006 10:55:57 PM
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Took your advice, I read the AL boating regs. Nothing new. No speed laws, no hard and fast laws on anything except DUI. It is a virtual copy of the Coast Guard regs. Ever taken the Coast Guard course?
No, I don't have a drinking problem, but from looking at some of the posts by some guys, they probably wouldn't want the Marine Police to pull them over on a weekend afternoon on the lake.
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Here are just a few direct quotes from the boating laws to help you out:
It shall be unlawful to operate a vessel in a careless manner upon the waters of this state. Careless operation is the endangerment of life, limb, or property through negligence, carelessness, or inattention of the operator.
All vessels shall be operated at reasonable speeds for given situations and must be under the complete control of the operator at all times.
It is unlawful to operate a vessel in a reckless manner upon the waters of this state. A person is guilty of reckless operation when he operates any vessel or manipulates any waterskis or any other marine transportation device upon the waters of this state in a willful or wanton disregard for the safety of persons or property at a speed or in a manner to endanger or likely to endanger life, limb, or property or injury of any person.
These few examples give the marine police extensive latitude if needed.
In addition, here are my previous comments as they pertain to the laws:
“I agree we should have more no wake zones, restricted speed areas, and night time speed limits, as they pertain to public safety.”
NOW, here are your exact comments about the laws, and the reason one might assume you have a drinking problem:
“What Laws exist that apply to the current situation?
Speed laws? NO
No wake enforcement laws? NO
DUI Laws? THAT'S IT. WE'LL PUT MORE MARINE POLICE IN THE LAKE TO STRICTLY ENFORCE DRINKING LAWS. THEN MOST OF US WILL BE IN JAIL, HAVE OUR BOAT AND CARS TAKEN AWAY FROM US FOR TOO MANY DUI'S OR WE WON'T BE ABLE TO AFFORD THE INSURANCE. I believe boating DUI's go on your driving record.
THAT'S IT WE'LL JUST ENFORCE OUR CURRENT LAWS!!!!”
And finally....Yes, I have taken the coast guard test; I have also taught the course.
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Osms
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Note to Osms....
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3/25/2006 8:05:35 AM
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Since you have read the regulations and have taught the Coast Guard course you know and must admit that the Marine Police are given a great deal of lattitude is dealing with a given situation. THERE ARE NO SPEED LIMITS. It is obvious that the general public want more strict enforcement because they do not feel the lakes are safe--that personal property and safety are at risk.
The Marine Police are understaffed, underpowered, and may not get the court support they need to keep things under control. They do the best that they can do--this law will help eliminate the source of some of the problems, and make their job easier and more effective.
Your argument that current laws are adequate just doesn't hold up. I've noticed that none of the anti-law group will talk about safety or speed. All of a sudden it's 'wake' that's the problem. The real underlying issue is excess speed and the safety concerns of boats traveling at 70-100 mph in the same vicinity as families in boats traveling at 10-30. Ever noticed that Interstate highways have a minimum speed of 45 mph, and they require everyone to travel in lanes and in the same direction--that's for safety--and cars have brakes. Families should not have to risk their lives on the lake because the state government failed to do its part to require safe boating practices.
As for your personal attack on me about drinking and boating--I'll just consider the source and forget it. The DUI laws are one of the very few laws that give specific guidelines to the Maring Police--it's about their only tool of enforcement--if they could only catch up to the fast boats.
It's all about the operator--that's the answer to the problem.
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Bob
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Note to Osms....
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3/25/2006 8:48:13 AM
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OSMS,
I want to thank you for the time you have spent arguing with the folks on this board. I completely and totally agree with all that you have said. Everyone I know on the lake agrees as well. That is why this law will pass. The days of the 28ft+ missle on the lake are coming to an end!!! I can't wait. Take em to the sea boys where they belong...
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Or do you just have a comprehension problem. I will repeat with easy to understand bullet statements.
I said you were wrong when you stated we have NO LAWS addressing speed. There are laws addressing this.
I agree we need to have additional limits addressing speed and wakes that pertain to safety in designated areas and at night.
I agree that the operator is the problem.
I do NOT agree that limiting boats by size, and the speed they are capable of achieving, is the answer.
As for the alcohol issue, all I did was was ask the question "Do you have an alcohol problem" in response to your rant......and then re-post that rant..
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I believe there are folks on both sides of this issue that are letting passion get in the way of a logical arguement.
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Osms
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Note to Osms....
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3/25/2006 8:45:22 PM
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Thanks. Join in... Reason and logic will win.
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