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babygirl
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? Amazing to me.
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6/15/2006 11:39:49 PM
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Two accidents happened last weekend. One on Smith Lake (formula and bayliner) and one at Riverfest (skiboat and pontoon). Why is it that some people only focus on the one at Smith Lake.
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Osms
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? Amazing to me.
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6/16/2006 7:49:47 AM
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Because you keep bringing it up.
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JMSD
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That right there is ....
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6/16/2006 10:40:27 AM
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funny, I don't care who you are that is funny! Considering that babygirl has not posted anything about either of the wrecks that happened until this post! You on the other hand have made 5 replies to the original post about the wreck that occurred on Smith Lake. So who is it that keeps bringing it up? It would appear that it isn't babygirl!
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Osms
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JMSD
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6/16/2006 12:17:24 PM
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Why don't you go back and read my post on 6/14 at 5:27 PM. You might learn something useful....
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JMSD
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Osms
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6/16/2006 12:39:23 PM
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What exactly is it that I am supposed to learn that is useful in your post from 6/14 at 5:27 PM? My previous response to you was based on your response that babygirl kept bringing up the accidents that happened which was not true. No where in my post did I say anything about how I felt about the accidents or anything about the type of boats that were involved. I was just simply pointing out that babygirl IS not the one that keeps bringing it up. Maybe before you make a response like that you should check to make sure that your response is accurate!
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Osms
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Osms
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6/16/2006 1:01:54 PM
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Forget it--obviously you just need to argue!!
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WSMS
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Osms
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6/16/2006 1:25:25 PM
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What did you expect? He runs with a crowd that now has an admitted motto: "Get over the fact that big boat owners are loud, and obnoxious. Its what we do and enjoy." Being argumentative just fits right into that, don't you think?
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JMSD
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It amazes me...
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6/16/2006 2:43:17 PM
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at the assumptions and stereotypes that some people make on this forum. What people post on this forum is sometimes a reflection of their character but at other times it is a reflection of being upset and posting in anger, which many people have done on this forum. So to judge me because you think that I hang out around the "big boat" crowd, whom ONE person said, "Get over the fact that big boat owners are loud, and obnoxious. Its what we do and enjoy" that because of this one statement it has now become the motto of big boat owners! I do not enjoy being loud or obnoxious, when I am on the lake I enjoy being on the lake and meeting new people. I am argumentative when I believe in something I am not going to not stand up for the things that I believe in! My husband (which would make me a she by the way and not a he) goes to work everyday for me to have the right to stand up for what I believe in!
As for Osms, I was truly trying to understand what you were pointing out to me by asking me to read your post from 6/14. I would agree that giving children a license to operate a PWC at the age of 12 is a VERY scary thought. Yes, you made some very good observations and I pretty much agree with all that you said in that post. However, in my first response to you I ws merely pointing out that you had posted 5 times to that thread and babygirl had not posted once. But yet you seem to think that she is the reason the Smith Lake incident keeps being brought up.
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Osms
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babygirl..
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6/16/2006 2:44:36 PM
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JMSD pointed out my failure to communicate -- Let me correct my previous post -- Because YA'LL keep bringing it up.
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babygirl
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babygirl..
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6/16/2006 3:48:46 PM
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GEEESSSHHH! I made a simple observation about a topic of information on this forum. My point of this thread was not to get feathers ruffled. I just thought it was amazing how some people think. People could have gotten killed in EITHER accident (but the one on Smith Lake was the main topic of conversation.) I am just glad that was not the case.
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WSMS
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It amazes me...
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6/16/2006 4:01:58 PM
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Way back when, longtimer made this post: "When you police your own, you make it less necessary for others (law enforcement, and eventually politicians) to do the policing for you.
And of course, this doesn't apply just to "big boaters," or boaters in general; it applies to every interest group there is. If you participate in an activity, eventually somebody somewhere for some reason is going to get upset with you; it's better for everyone if you take measures to head the trouble off at the pass. Otherwise, you run the risk of getting grouped together with the person/people causing the problems, and when that happens, you must serve the same punishment they do... even if you didn't do anything wrong yourself."
In this case, "policing your own" and "heading trouble off at the pass" means standing up to someone who posts "we're loud and obnoxious; get used to it" and saying something like "No, WE aren't; YOU might be, but you don't speak for all of us." But in this case, BBO DID seem to be speaking for all big boat owners (by use of the word "we") and since NOT A SINGLE ONE OF THEM denied his claims, why should anyone think he didn't speak for them all?
Again, if you're going to let someone else make statements that can be applied to you, you should either make sure to let people know that he does not speak for you, or you should be prepared to accept the criticism such a statement makes. In this case, you chose the second option.
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SCARAB MAN
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It amazes me...
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6/16/2006 4:54:25 PM
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Did someone forget its Friday?Its time to have fun on the lake once again,no matter if your loud and obnoxious or soft spoken.
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Island Camper
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you vs ya'll
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6/16/2006 5:33:39 PM
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You and ya'll can mean essentially the same thing. The standard 2nd person plural is you. 'Round these parts the 2nd person plural is ya'll. It's all the same.
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BoatsRFun
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It amazes me...
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6/16/2006 5:45:13 PM
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TGIF, Scarab Man i will be on the lake all Saturday, yell at me if you see me (or you can whisper but i might not hear you, lol) WSMS if the above post is how you really think then i truely feel sorry for you, Peace and Safe Boating to ALL
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Osms
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you vs ya'll
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6/16/2006 6:06:53 PM
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FYI, I've been on the lake all afternoon--weather's cool when you're neck deep in LAKE MARTIN. YYYYAAAAA''''''''''''''LLLLLLLLLLLLL (all of you) have a great weekend.
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babygirl
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OK
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6/16/2006 9:53:47 PM
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Just remember. You asked for this one.
WSMS quotes “And of course, this doesn't apply just to "big boaters," or boaters in general; it applies to every interest group there is. If you participate in an activity, eventually somebody somewhere for some reason is going to get upset with you;, it's better for everyone if you take measures to head the trouble off at the pass. Otherwise you run the risk of getting grouped together with the person/people causing the problems, and when that happens, you must serve the same punishment they do... even if you didn't do anything wrong yourself."
OK, lets suppose, a group of guys (not necessarily friends but hang out buddies) are at a party and one of them does something inappropriate to a female (heck, the way things are going these days, a male) guest. Charges are filed against all of the guys. If the guys, that had absolutely nothing to do with this act, didn’t speak up and head trouble off at the pass they should be punished for something the one guy did???????? HMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!
As far as BBO posts go. I read the first one and he was specifically talking about himself being loud and obnoxious. I know BBO and he was not referring to his boat being loud but partying with his friends and being loud and sometimes obnoxious. Have you been to the ROCK lately????????? All kinds can be loud and obnoxious there. As far as his second post, how in the world do you know that he wasn’t talking about him and his wife? That would be a WE in anyone’s book.
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jawjagal
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Interesting
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6/16/2006 11:31:18 PM
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Name: Osms -
Subject: Osms
Date: 6/16/2006 1:01:54 PM
Forget it--obviously you just need to argue!!
Name: WSMS -
Subject: Osms
Date: 6/16/2006 1:25:25 PM
What did you expect? He runs with a crowd that now has an admitted motto: "Get over the fact that big boat owners are loud, and obnoxious. Its what we do and enjoy." Being argumentative just fits right into that, don't you think
OSMS
WSMS
Has this coincidence been brought up before?
Same song, second verse?
(similar initials...similar opinions?)
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Osms
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Interesting
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6/17/2006 7:43:12 AM
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Jawjagal, I'm lost. What point did I miss in your post. It does appear that WSMS and I have similar responses, but what's the significance?
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jawjagal
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Interesting
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6/17/2006 10:46:25 AM
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Well, I remember - in past posts - last year - WSMS knowing so much about real estate (he/she knew a LOT about Russell land info), that I think he/she works for a real estate company. You were so kind to me when I had that trouble with YOU KNOW WHO, and had just seen YKW at an RL open house. So, with similar call letters (only ONE letter off), with coincidental involvement/interest in real esate, I just thought....now, remember, I am a blonde, you two could be one in the same.
I am not going to ask if you are. I really don't care. But you have to admit, at least my thinking is LOGICAL????????? (a first....LOL)
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Osms
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Interesting
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6/17/2006 1:05:57 PM
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I thought that was what you were thinking. Nope, we are not the same person--never met WSMS, but I believe he's been on the forum longer than I have. WSMS and I do have similar thoughts on many issues. BTW, my alias is related to my home town.
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ALSCN
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It amazes me...
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6/19/2006 5:54:25 PM
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One question for you, and honestly I am not trying to get into this arguement, but in your remarks you stated that BBO had made a statement? Who is the "BBO" you are referring to?
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ALSCN
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It amazes me...
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6/19/2006 6:06:20 PM
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WSMS ~ Now I understand who you meant with your post. BBO... well let me explain something. BBO is my husband, "we" are a family. That "we" does not mean a social group that you would perfer outlawed. That we is the four of us, my husband, myself, our daughter and son. Loud and obnoxious is probably us tickling our children and splashing around in the lake with them. Truth be told, we do get an occassional weekend to ourselves and like to let our hair down, heck, I bet once or twice I have screamed at somebody passing on another boat so they could hear me tell them "Hi", see that is what we are all about. We like to have fun, we love spending time together, and we simply adore our children. So truthfully you can put us in what ever group suits you I really don't care, because truth be told there needs to be more families like ours in the world. A family that enjoys to be around each other and play together. So don't misquote us, unless you know what is meant by the post and unless you know who "we" are.
We are looking forward to another wonderful weekend on the lake, enjoying our family time, I invite you , that if you see Pier Pressure out and about, stop in and say hello. But I warn you that the children get to laughing so hard sometimes that it is deafening (could be considered loud and obnoxious too)... I hope you have a Blessed Day.
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Pier Pressure
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It amazes me...
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6/22/2006 5:16:41 PM
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Let me explain myself (if anyone is still reading this post).
In my attempt to identify a common characteristic of big boat owners I could only find one which had any validity (based on complaints I have heard), it was noise. I am not saying that by default if you own a big boat you are noisy, its just the complaint that I hear so much about. So, I decided to classify this noise as us being loud and obnoxious to make a point that there is nothing in the law that states we cannot be loud and obnoxious, just like there is nothing in the law that keeps fisherman from parking at your pier all times of the night, and nothing from keeping PWC riders from toying around in your slew, etc. The statement was to identify that although you may not like it, you must accept it. Create any law you want, we will still be here, they will still be here, YOU will still be here. Either accept it, or find somewhere else to live/hang out. Feel free to define loud and obnoxious any way you choose, place me into any class of person you choose. Keep in mind, I will still have a smile on my face, and my family will continue to have a good time... Hope to see you all soon...
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