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Lakeshore
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Save Lake Martin . com
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11/20/2006 4:20:26 PM
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Someone sent me this today... I found it very interesting.
Please excuse the post if it has already been shared.
URL: Save Lake Martin
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Lakeshore
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Old news. (NT)
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11/20/2006 6:54:27 PM
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I figured... I try and stay up on this forum but this type of forum is WAAY out dated... combine that with topics/thread titles such as... "Did you know..." or "Read this..."... " I just found out that...." make it impossible to figure out or stay on top of information... There's no 'search' feature either, is there?!
Where's the previous thread?
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It's been in a few threads if I remember correctly....I agree we are outdated, but there is a search option at the top of the page that can help find some old info at times.
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PillPipe
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Old news. (NT)
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11/20/2006 7:40:16 PM
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isn't there a forum on that page too? seems like they might know something about the story.
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Pier Pressure
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Old news. (NT)
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11/20/2006 8:37:09 PM
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It may help them (or their 'struggle') to address what they are saving the lake from. Pick a topic and stay with it as opposed to jumping on all the bandwagon companion bills (such as big boat issues). I think (and I am probably wrong) that the site was somehow designed around the watershed issues and how much water will be let out and when to support users downstream.
If there is something to save the lake from, I am for it. If it is saving the water for the use of a select few, or keeping a select group off the water, I am not for it...
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longtimer
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I disagree.
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11/20/2006 11:51:26 PM
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If you go to the doctor and he diagnoses you with two different diseases, he probably isn't going to pick which one to treat and which to ignore; he is going to want to treat both. Otherwise, what's the point? Why put your broken leg in a cast and ignore your brain tumor?
Likewise, there are many different things that threaten this lake. We might not agree on what they are, but that doesn't mean they don't exist. And what some perceive as a problem others might perceive as a benefit, but that doesn't mean that one side is wrong and the other right; it just illustrates that people are different in many different ways. Some like crowds, some like solitude. Some like rap music, some like classical. None of them are wrong. (The problems arise when one group tries to impose its likes on the other. Listening to rap music is fine; forcing someone who hates it to listen is not. Smoking cigarettes is fine; forcing me to breathe your smoke is not.)
I suppose you think the DOT should decide what the biggest hazard on the highway is, and work on fixing that, while ignoring everything else. "Speeding is the number one problem, so let's work on that. Of course that means that we are saying that running red lights, drinking and driving, and all other violations are okay, since there can be one and only one problem."
Again, you don't have to agree with all of the issues that website addresses, or disagree with all of them; you are free to agree with some, disagree with others, and decide that some don't affect you at all. But to decide that there is just one issue is blind, and maybe a little bit selfish. (Either that, or it shows that you are one of those people who don't have what it takes to be able to see the big picture, and to think about more than one thing at a time. There are many people like that; you don't strike me as one of them.)
Personally, I think the biggest issue facing that website is that people ignore it; they'd rather have discussions about Tom and Katie's baby or re-tell old jokes than admit that there are problems with the lake, problems that need to be addressed, not ignored.
Then again, this is the generation that was raised to ignore anything that didn't affect them directly, and to completely discount opinions that differ from their own. Which, when you get right down to it, is probably why this lake is facing so many problems in the first place.
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Pier Pressure
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I disagree.
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11/21/2006 1:52:34 AM
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I would think that savelakemartin.com would have a specific agenda. Like that algae problem in Lake Jordan. Or like the issue with northern lakes having too much phosphorus. Or maybe spelling out undesired actions or pointing out unruly areas of the lake etc (by the way, this lake is tame compared to most others).
My point was it is painfully obvious that this page recently has been used as an anti cruiser forum. The people who post messages on that forum have general negative overtones about everything. Seems to me like a b1tchin post.
I agree that there are a couple items listed which discuss nature conservation, and that would be the type of things to make the page shine, in addition to putting more contrast to the background so it’s easier reading. Even advertising when lake cleanup day is could be beneficial reason to return to the site. The biggest problem is that the person who controls the page is not representative of the masses, and they seem a little one sided on the issues. Everyone gets their word in on the forum, but no representation on the main page.
I think if it were used as a melting pot for solutions to these issues then things could be resolved. It reminds me of ski resorts. When ski boarding become popular the skiers hated them. Then the resorts built skiboard parks and half-pipes and added rails to slide on etc. They catered to the boarders and set aside an area specific for them. It took 15 years for their culture to become accepted. This could be done at the lake (to a certain extent). Unoficially of course to be politically correct. I have made many suggestions that people begin to tie off on the other side of Acapulco Island (the narrower side with the bridge to nowhere). It makes more sense to me as its a better wind break, shallower water, and at the current time no development. The PWC riders could find areas which are less populated, and advertise these areas to other riders etc.
I agree 100% with you that you should not have other persons desires imposed on you. That is what is happening with these ridiculous laws.
I say within 10 years the entire shore will be developed to some extent. There will be boat over population, and everyone will be crying about it. Who is to say it is right or wrong? It’s easy for the current lake property owner to say they do not want that, but who gave them the right to develop? Just like it is easy for me to say I do not want boat over population. Someone gave me the right to be there, right? Who are we to take away the freedoms of others which were allowed to us?
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Lakeshore
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I disagree.
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11/21/2006 8:34:07 AM
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Longtime and pier.. you make some excellent points!
You know what stuck in my craw about Bailey's sharing of his communications with Gwen was the simple fact that BR has power to manipulate and control what ruffles his feathers. Granted it's his publication but that kind of behavior is wrong, especially after running the article and then trying to back peddle and put words in Bailey's mouth.
The issues here are troubling to say the least... just the traffic from BUILDING the 99 condos on Centerport is driving me nuts.
The thought of selling our property and moving away comes up more and more as time goes on.
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Harborcon
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I disagree.
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11/21/2006 9:42:00 AM
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Where on Centerport are the 99 condos being built? My cabin is off Centerport and I noticed all the cables being laid along the road a month or so ago... Maybe that's what prompted the builder to call about buying our property.
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Lakeshore
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I disagree.
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11/21/2006 10:14:52 AM
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Down past the hair pin turn left on... what is it.. Silverleaf.. Silver Lake... I forget. It's fenced off. They have destroyed that road so assume it will be repaved when they are done. The intial big rigs hauling dirt were responsible for all the damage on Centerport earlier this year. Not much to see from the road but if the gates open you can take a peak. I saw it from the lake last summer and I was flabbergasted to say the least. BIG BIG BIG.
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Osms
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I disagree.
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11/21/2006 10:39:43 AM
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Could you possibly be talking about the housing project looking cheap construction going up on the south side of Blue Creek just a little east of Bama Park trailer court?
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Harborcon
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I disagree.
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11/21/2006 5:13:09 PM
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That's the Crowne Point project. We hear them working a lot, and can see the trucks going up and down the road from across our slough. The realtor tried to get me to buy in pre-construction last year at $5,000, saying I could sell it before closing date and make a buncha money. Maybe I should have!
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Lakeman
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I disagree.
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11/21/2006 7:35:31 PM
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Silver Hill.
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Osms
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I disagree.
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11/22/2006 12:17:58 AM
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Wonder what they're going to try to sell the "ghetto with a view" condos for? That project is without a doubt the biggest eyesore on the entire lake.
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Lakeshore
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I disagree.
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11/22/2006 8:30:44 AM
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The pile driving is still going on and it will drive you crazy!
I heard that they are all sold. Most, if not all, to the same person! $5k buy in would have def netted you a serious return.
I'm told that another lot on the EAST side of Curry Point across from this development has sold commercially for over a million and the lot behind was sold to the same person for SEPTIC. Not sure whats going in there but that's what I heard.
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BayPineYankee
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I disagree.
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11/22/2006 9:56:02 AM
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Not all are sold - I count 9 on the market this morning in flexmls and they don't appear to be resale.
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The Loner
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I disagree.
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11/23/2006 1:24:06 AM
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This is what it says on the first page: "If you have something you'd like to contribute to this site, just let us know; our email address is savelakemartin (at) savelakemartin.com. (One thing we won't blame on the lake bigwigs is the necessity of using (at) instead of the usual @; the blame for that falls squarely on the shoulders of computer geeks with too much free time.)"
If only one person is writing things for the site, then it can't be anything but one-sided. But it looks like other opinions are welcomed. You can't blame them if you haven't taken advantage of the opportunity they have offered you.
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