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Name:   LifeTime Laker - Email Member
Subject:   Water Problems
Date:   9/21/2007 9:57:09 AM

We don't have problems compared to this.

URL: From The AJC

Name:   LifeTime Laker - Email Member
Subject:   More Water Problems
Date:   9/21/2007 9:59:37 AM

These are the folks that are suffering, NOT US!

URL: Cattle Farmers

Name:   ecstasypoint - Email Member
Subject:   Water Problems
Date:   9/21/2007 10:28:18 AM

But isn't their problem our problem. Remember what your daddy said about whose water it is up there at the head waters of the tallapoosa? (At least I think that is what an earlier reference was to.) The drought may end, but the expansion of Atlanta and the southwest in general is not going to end. The building in metro Atlanta is mindboggling and lots of people are coming north to get out of the hurricanes and south to get out of the wicked cold and outrageous oil prices. All these folks have to drink something. These are the issues I am thinking about when I say I am mentally preparing for the possibility that the lake could one day be very different than we remember it.



Name:   Council Roc Doc - Email Member
Subject:   Water Problems
Date:   9/21/2007 10:41:08 AM

Maybe we could just import an endangered species. We will have all the water we can handle.



Name:   Aardvark - Email Member
Subject:   Water Problems
Date:   9/21/2007 10:53:37 AM

The Alabama Sturgeon. Atlanta can't have any water flowing into the Mobile Basin because it would harm the Sturgeon. That would work. Of course, that might also mean that the enviro wackos would want to shut down all commercial activity on the Alabama River, blow up the dams, etc.



Name:   LifeTime Laker - Email Member
Subject:   Water Problems
Date:   9/21/2007 11:12:17 AM

Yes that is exactly the long term problem. I posted those because they are about what is happened today. The 'water wars' are supposedly taking on the long term issues. If memory serves me, one of the issues that started the whole thing was GA wanting to build a dam on the Tallapoosa as a source of potable water for ATL. The problem is that no water would be returning to the Tpoosa. That and the very small tributaries in the area would not be able to produce enough to provide both ATL and downstream flows.

But at the same time, many naysayers were screaming when APCO started building Harris Dam. They claimed that Martin would 'never be full again'. Well 25 years has proven them wrong. I can't attest to this, but I have been told by someone whom I have the highest respect for, that the engineering and permits etc. exist to build ANOTHER dam on the Tpoosa. This one would be at Horseshoe Bend.



Name:   longtimer - Email Member
Subject:   Water Problems
Date:   9/21/2007 11:26:13 AM

The lake is already very different than many of us remember!



Name:   Council Roc Doc - Email Member
Subject:   Water Problems
Date:   9/21/2007 11:51:04 AM

I have heard that the Alabama-Tombigbee River Coalition, which includes APCO, the Alabama Port Authority and barge and commerce interests, are taking an appeals court ruling to the Supremes to get the sturgeon removed from the endangered species list. I wonder if the SC will take this case on next session. I would imagine that the intended target is the Endangered Species Act and not necessarily the beloved sturgeon.



Name:   LifeTime Laker - Email Member
Subject:   Water Problems
Date:   9/21/2007 12:25:21 PM

I read in "Alabma's Crown Jewel" that once the lake started filling the Tpoosa dried up comepletely and sturgeon up to 450 lbs were laying in the river bed dying. I had never read that the flow was comepletely shut off and was a little shocked when I read it. Can you imagine that happening today? I just assumed that a certain amount of flow was still diverted to downstream flows while fillling.



Name:   CAT BOAT - Email Member
Subject:   Water Problems
Date:   9/21/2007 12:39:21 PM

I want to read that. Where can I find it LTL.



Name:   LifeTime Laker - Email Member
Subject:   Here is a link
Date:   9/21/2007 1:56:24 PM

This link is for Google books. You can read a lot of it online. This is the same book I referenced a while back. It has the same pic with showing the bidge in 1940. It also has a pic showing the drought of 1988. My favorite book on the lake is "Putting Loafing Streams to Work". It is abuot the early years of APCO and includes the building of the first 4 dams.



Name:   LifeTime Laker - Email Member
Subject:   Forgot the link
Date:   9/21/2007 1:57:13 PM

Here it is.

URL: Lake Martin, Alabama's Crown Jewel

Name:   BigFoot - Email Member
Subject:   Forgot the link
Date:   9/21/2007 6:48:25 PM

Thanks, LTL.....I have seen the book on ebay on occasion....very interesting.



Name:   LifeTime Laker - Email Member
Subject:   Forgot the link
Date:   9/21/2007 7:27:17 PM

Yea it is. I haven't read the whole thing yet. I skimmed a lot of it and went straight to the 80-90's section. I have a read a couple of books on the early years so the section on more contemporary times is what interested me.



Name:   CAT BOAT - Email Member
Subject:   Forgot the link
Date:   9/21/2007 8:17:14 PM

Just stay away from my pond.



Name:   PC Al - Email Member
Subject:   Alabama's Crown Jewel
Date:   9/22/2007 5:28:42 PM

The first time I skimmed through the book, Lake Martin, Alabama’s Crown Jewel, I checked it out from the Vestavia Hills library. Afterwards, I purchased my own copy at Barnes and Noble in Hoover's Patton Creek. So you have your options other than the internet.







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