Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Looks like Iraq is gone
Date:	6/12/2014 9:13:30 AM

Well our worthless commander in chief and his equally worthless former SOS managed to grasp full on abject defeat from the jaws of potential victory in Iraq.  We go from purple fingers to chaos in a few short years.  Great job!  Who's next?

You know, I used to look with partial disdain on those that questioned whether WOTUS was a closet Muslim.  The more I see from his foreign policy the more I have to wonder if his goal isn't worldwide domination by Muslims through the abdication of the U.S.  No wonder he smiled when Bergdahl's nut job Dad spoke in Arabic in the Rose Garden.  If not for affirmative action this guy should be impeached and tried for treason........but it won't happen any more than Billary being held to any standard of performance as the totally incompetent SOS that she was.  Even her admirers and supporters can't point to one accomplishment, other than she traveled a lot.

Name:	lakngulf -	Reply
Subject:	Looks like Iraq is gone
Date:	6/12/2014 9:34:37 AM

Agree that Oblamer is quided by Muslim symphathy, and the demise of USA toward global socialism.  I struggled with the Bush decision on Iraq.  The folks who plane-bombed us were out of Afghan, should have stayed the course there and won, or just take out what Taliban we could, get Osama if possible, and get the hxll out.  Iraq is on Bush, Cheney, Dumsfeld, etc.  I leaned that way because I trusted Powell at the time.....but no more!  Oblamer inherited a mess there and made it worse.

Our foreign policy should now be guided by the principle that folks in that world hate us, folks in that world hate each other, and have since the beginning of time. 

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Looks like Iraq is gone
Date:	6/12/2014 10:18:07 AM

Agree that the decision to go into Iraq was W's but once we were there subsequent administration's have the obligation to make the best of the sacrifice of our military and Obama/Hillary have totally squandered it.  And now he is returning hardened Islamofascists to the battlefield to kill Americans.  Bush may have been ill advised in going into Iraq but Obama is a traitor.

Name:	lakngulf -	Reply
Subject:	Looks like Iraq is gone
Date:	6/12/2014 2:04:06 PM

Agree!

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	And guess who's leading the insurgency
Date:	6/12/2014 2:13:41 PM

A Gitmo detainee that TOTUS (Traitor of the U.S.) released in 2009.  Yep, he's the leader of the al Quada army that is getting ready to go into Baghdad.  But according to Billary, those five recent releases in exchange for the deserter, they are not a threat.  Stupidity......incompetence......cynical........disgusting.....

Name:	MAJ USA RET -	Reply
Subject:	Looks like Iraq is gone - so too Afghanistan
Date:	6/13/2014 9:19:59 AM (updated 6/13/2014 9:22:47 AM)

a) Iraq is gone. It was scheduled to be gone the day we started “nation building.” I knew Iraq (and Afghanistan) would return to Sharia inspired treachery the first week I worked with the Iraqi government. Google up taqiyya. 

b) As it turns out the WMDs that we did not find in Iraq had been moved to Syria (we have imagery of Sadam doing this)- - where the Israelis had to subsequently take out the nuclear portion and the chemical parts were left over for Assad to use on his own people a la Sadam Hussein. 

c) As has Iraq, Afghanistan will also revert. No matter how we leave them, their cultural impetus is to return to Islamic life and all of its attendant cruelty. It would have been less costly in blood and resources, had we done nothing but conquer and depart - - the remedy we effected for Saddam in Kuwait. 

d) So - -  what DO the Muslims understand? They understand defeat. They neither understand nor respect “nation building” or “charity” or “forgiveness” on the part of the victor in a conflict. 

Therefore, my premise is that we should meet their expectations when we strike preemptively or in retaliation for the harboring and or exporting of terrorism. If they ignore our diplomatic warning - - we should exact selective and meaningful destruction of infrastructure - - while avoiding carnage. 

Our military strategy should be to simultaneously drop eVeRY significant bridge (halt all motorized transportation) and simultaneously demolish eVeRY power station and switchyard (turn off utilities). This aerial/cruise missile campaign MUST be followed by dead silence on our part. No occupation - - no nation building. ISLAM UNDeRSTANDS THIS PeRFeCTLY. I predict we would have to do this only once (do you remember Muammar Gaddafi?) 

- - LMF Curmudgeon