Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	This Is Really Funny
Date:	9/24/2021 11:04:13 PM

Trumpers Spent Millions on the Arizona Election Audit. All They Found Was More Votes for Biden.

Name:	architect -	Reply
Subject:	Yep, Trump loses 261, Biden gains 99.....
Date:	9/25/2021 12:20:31 AM (updated 9/25/2021 12:48:11 AM)

By my math that adds up to a net gain of 360 votes for Biden and a net reduction of 162 total votes cast.  Not much in 2.1 million but percentage wise more than the spread between Bush and Gore in the entire state of FL in 2000 and it sure brought a smile to my face!  Wonder when MM and CRD are going to weigh in?  I wonder if CRD remembers me asking him several months ago something along the line of why not let the AZ audit play out then decide whether AZ was ''stolen'' by the Democrats? Maybe MM and CRD can explain how an official count giving the Republican candidate 261 more votes than he got and the Democrat 99 less votes than he got is not Republican election fraud.  Maybe they can also tell us who should have to pay the millions of dollars to replace the Maricopa County election machines to replace those which must decommissioned because the old machines were contaminated by the Cyber Ninjas.

Name:	wix -	Reply
Subject:	OK, Goof-IDIOT and Arch-COMMIE
Date:	9/25/2021 9:13:42 AM

Tell us how proud you are of Hiden Biden & da HO!  The greatest embarrassment to the USA is currently sleeping in tha WH, and the next greatest embarrassment is sleeping..lord knows where.  And that doesn’t even count Biden baby Hunter, the drunk, crack-head, whore lover!  Biden is destroying this country at a record rate….tell us about all dim worthless, welfare slugs (one day dimokrap voters), being ushered into OUR COUNTRY…..admit why!

Name:	Carlson -	Reply
Subject:	This Is Really Funny
Date:	9/25/2021 10:44:31 AM

Obviously you did not viewed the presentation or read the audit results.  This one county violated every election law and then tried to cover it up.  You are citing the nbc and fox analysis.  Finally report stated that this vote can not be and should not have been certified.  Damn, that's still another criminal act to certify a fraudulent election.  

BTW, the auditors held back some of the huge fraud results, 10 different types of paper used for the ballots.  And finally the looksie at the servers next week.  

is this the way you want your election handled since it is a double edged sword.  Whoever cheats the best wins!  

Name:	lakngulf -	Reply
Subject:	This Is Really Funny
Date:	9/25/2021 12:00:55 PM

It does make a difference to take a look at original sources instead of interpretations

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	This Is Really Funny
Date:	9/25/2021 12:39:09 PM

Her Donald lost...LOLLLLLLLLLLLL. Now, she is married to Losing Don. As Phil likes to tell us...Melania is married to a low life.  

Name:	architect -	Reply
Subject:	For the second string in a row
Date:	9/25/2021 2:20:44 PM (updated 9/25/2021 2:35:04 PM)

Prove it Carlson!  Give it to us chapter and verse verifiable proof that what you claim is actually true.  Not ''he said she said'' or more BS about hidden suitcases or trucks backing up and unloading ballots, but completely verifiable facts.  I dare you!

Are you now quafing Ivermectin as a chaser to your hydroxychloroquine cocktail you always enjoy right after your clorox injections?  

Name:	Carlson -	Reply
Subject:	For the second string in a row
Date:	9/25/2021 2:55:13 PM

So many low IQ citizens on this board or TDS has allowed you to be hoodwinked.

this audit was not a recount, it was an audit of the election process.  It did not disclose who won. 

but of the ballots counted 255,000 had no data supporting they were even mailed.  57,000 ballots were duplicates (2,3 and 4 times counted), ballots from dead people, people who had moved, ineligible ballots such as missing signature, illegal signatures, etc.  data files were erased one day before the audit (they know who did that via video). 12 authorized administrators using the sign name and password, preventing the identification of deletions and data changes in the system.  The election system was illegal since it had not been updated and certified since 2019 as required by federal law.  Machines were hooked to the internet 59 open ports). Remember dominion swore their equipment did not have internet capability.  Changes were made from external IPs (outside the state) and one machine had election data on one of two hard drives from the State of Washington?  You can't make this stuff up.

Finallythe examination of the paper (not included in the briefing) verified that the paper did not meet federal requirement to have the isotopes needed to verify authenticity of the ballots.  0% met the requirements, so that none of the ballots are technically legal.  If you want to subvert that system.  That information will be included during the Q&A next week.  

actually a canvassing was done that will verify the dead people, those who didn't vote but counted, the duplicates, etc.  it was not part of the audit but was provided to the senate earlier.  I'm sure it will be discussed in the upcoming Senate hearings.

are you going to the rally tonight?  GA is next. So please continue to believe what you are told that our elections are secure.  Read the report or you prove!  

Name:	Carlson -	Reply
Subject:	For the second string in a row
Date:	9/25/2021 3:01:39 PM

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Senator Kelly Townsend reacts to the Arizona Election Audit Report

Phoenix, AZ

September 24, 2021

I am thoroughly shocked, yet not surprised, at the product that was delivered to the people of Arizona by the hands of Adrian Fontes regarding the 2020 General election.  Although the raw numbers of votes show a similar outcome to the official canvass.  The important outcome is that the votes that were counted could be trusted as actual and true voter submissions, according to Arizona State law.

However, what we learned today that there was a myriad of issues with the counting process that undermine the confidence in the true and accurate count of this election.  The election system simply does not balance.  Some of the issues that jump out immediately to me are as follows:

• Deleted / purged files - The timing and deletion of files the day before the 2/2/21 audit.  Maricopa county purged the machine records the day before the audit started.  Many .exe and .dll files (approximately 1500) were either deleted or modified.

• No security or credential management.  There were shared accounts and passwords which made the identification of those deleting or purging files difficult, but not impossible.

• Duplicates ballots were grossly mismanaged, and our laws were broken regarding this important part of our election process.

• Chain of custody was not accurately kept, making it impossible who touched what and when.

• Envelopes without signatures, images of ballot envelopes with an apparent approval stamp behind the basic graphics of the envelop, suggesting tampering.

• Connectivity to the internet has been established, in violation of Arizona law and contrary to what we have been told about the system.

• Sloppy caretaking of ballots, missing batches in boxes, batches in boxes not listed on the box or county list.

These are just a few of the many issues brought up today and necessitate a dramatic change in the way we oversee our elections, and how we hold those accountable who have broken our laws.  Most importantly, whenever there is malfeasance and skullduggery, we must both nullify that election and repeat it with one more securely conducted, and we must move forward with indictments of hose who perpetrated this fraud against us.

Name:	Carlson -	Reply
Subject:	For the second string in a row
Date:	9/25/2021 3:10:47 PM

9/24/2021 Maricopa County Forensic Audit Volume I: Executive Summary & Recommendations Work Performed For: Arizona State Senate 1700 W Washington St Phoenix, AZ 85007 1 DOCUMENTOVERVIEW This document includes the Executive Summary of the Maricopa County Forensic Audit, a listing of findings within the Findings Summary, as well as Recommendations based on our work in the audit. For more details about the Methodology & Operations of the audit, please see “Maricopa County Forensic Audit – Volume II – Methodology and Operations”. For more details about the Findings of the report, or to review the results from the hand-tallying of the 2.1 million ballots, please see “Maricopa County Forensic Audit – Volume III – Result Details”. 2 EXECUTIVESUMMARY The preamble to our Constitution reminds us that our nation is always pursuing greater perfection, seeking to establish “... a more perfect Union” so that we can “...secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity”. Nothing is more essential in establishing liberty than free and fair elections. To that end, Cyber Ninjas was engaged by the Arizona Senate to audit the 2020 General Election and determine the outcome of the election and in what areas legislative reform is required to ensure that our elections are indeed free and fair in the future. This audit has been the most comprehensive and complex election audit ever conducted. It involved the hand counting of 2.1 million ballots, a forensic paper inspection of them, a forensic review of the voting machines, and most important, an in-depth analysis of the voter rolls and the 2020 General Election final files. Many of the issues in the election can be traced back to two primary causative factors: mail-in voting and improper voter registration management. More than 80% of the ballots cast in Maricopa were via mail. The guarantee of the secret ballot is not only a right that applies to the voter themself, but it is also a right guaranteed to the rest of those voting in the election that that person’s ballot is secret and therefore cannot have come under any undue influence. Mail-in voting eliminates secrecy in voting as it is impossible to control or know who a voter shares their ballot with and what is done with it prior to it being mailed-in or dropped off. 57,734 ballots with serious issues were identified in the audit. These issues include improper voter registration, improper votes, and discrepancies in the registration. This is a conservative estimate, as there were other identified problems that were not quantified nor included in that total, likely resulting in a much larger number of flawed ballots. Additional issues identified: backdated registrations, multiple voter registrations linked to the same voter affidavit, voters without records in a commercial database, and printing defects rendering thousands of ballots as suspicious. In the 2020 presidential election, the margin of victory was only 10,457 votes, a small fraction of the 57,734 ballots with known issues. Again, this is almost 6 times the margin of victory in the Presidential race and is multiples of the margin of victory in other races. Based on these factual findings, the election should not be certified, and the reported results are not reliable. Major issues identified: • There were more than 10,000 double votes across county lines • Tens of thousands of ballots cast from individuals who had moved prior to the election and could not have physically received their ballots, legally. © 2021 Cyber Ninjas FOR ARIZONA SENATE USE ONLY Page 1 of 7 • None of the systems related to elections integrity had numbers that would balance and agree with each other. • The voter rolls and the registration management process itself have many data integrity issues. For instance, over 200 individuals were easily identifiable as likely being the same person but having two different Voter IDs and voting twice in the election. o Without access to the County’s detailed records including personally identifiable information and registration systems it is more likely there were many tens of thousands of improper votes in the election from double voters, deceased voters, voters for which we can find no trace in the public records nor association to their voting address, moved voters, etc. • Proper voter registration law and procedures were not followed. o There were unexplained large purges of registered voters, right after the election, of people who had voted in the election. o There was back dating of registrations, adjustments made to historical voting and voter records, unexplained linking of voter registration affidavits to multiple voters and more. • Files were missing from the Election Management System (EMS) Server. • Ballot images on the EMS were corrupt or missing. • Logs appeared to be intentionally rolled over, and all the data in the database related to the 2020 General Election had been fully cleared. • On the ballot side, batches were not always clearly delineated, duplicated ballots were missing the required serial numbers, originals were duplicated more than once, and the Auditors were never provided Chain-of- Custody documentation for the ballots for the time-period prior to the ballot’s movement into the Auditors’ care. This all increased the complexity and difficulty in properly auditing the results. • There were substantial statistically significant anomalies identified in the ratio of hand-folded ballots, on- demand printed ballots, as well as a statistically significant increase in provisional ballot rejections for a mail- in ballot already being cast, suggestive of mail-in ballots being cast for voters without their knowledge. The 2005 Report on Federal Election Reform, which was an effort led by democrats, stated the following regarding mail- in voting: “While vote by mail appears to increase turnout for local elections there is no evidence that it significantly expands participation in federal elections. Moreover it raises concerns about privacy as citizens voting at home may come under pressure to vote for certain candidates and it increases the risk of fraud.” Managing an election conducted almost entirely by mail is a difficult endeavor and raises numerous issues which would be much less likely to occur if most voting was in-person. Had Maricopa County chosen to cooperate with the audit, many of the obstacles faced in the audit could have been overcome. By the County withholding subpoena items, their unwillingness to answer questions as is normal between auditor and auditee, and in some cases actively interfering with audit research, the County prevented a complete audit. This did not stop the primary goal of offering recommendations for legislative reform to the Arizona Senate, but it did leave many questions open as to the way and manner that the 2020 General Election was conducted. 3 FINDINGSUMMARY The following is a list of findings covered within the report. Details on all these findings as well as the results of the hand- tallying can be found in the document “Maricopa County Forensic Audit – Volume III – Results Details”. © 2021 Cyber Ninjas FOR ARIZONA SENATE USE ONLY Page 2 of 7 NOTE: Ballots Impacted is intended to give a gauge on the potential impact for the finding. While it is based on the number of ballots impacted by the finding, it is not generally expected that any single finding would completely favor a candidate. In many cases there could be legitimate and legal votes within the Ballots Impact amount. For more details, please see the write-up for the finding within Volume III. © 2021 Cyber Ninjas FOR ARIZONA SENATE USE ONLY Page 3 of 7 Finding Name Phase Ballots Impacted Severity Mail-in Ballots Voted from Prior Address Potential Voters that Voted in Multiple Counties More Ballots Returned by Voter Than Received Election Management System Database Purged Election Files Deleted Corrupt Ballot Images Official Results Does Not Match Who Voted More Duplicates Than Original Ballots In-Person Voters Who Had Moved out of Maricopa County Voters Moved Out-of-State During 29-Day Period Proceeding Election Missing Ballot Images Failure to Follow Basic Cyber Security Practices Subpoenaed Equipment Not Provided Anonymous Logins Dual Boot System Discovered EMS Operating System Logs Not Preserved Votes Counted in Excess of Voters Who Voted Voters not part of the Official Precinct Register Ballots Returned Not in the Final Voted File Duplicated Ballots Incorrect & Missing Serial Numbers Mail-In Ballot Received without Record of Being Sent Voters With Incomplete Names Deceased Voters Audit UOCAVA Count Does Not Match the EAC Count Late Registered Voters with Counted Votes Date of Registration Changes to Earlier Date Duplicate Voter IDs Multiple Voters Linked by AFFSEQ Double Scanned & Counted Ballots UOCAVA Electronic Ballots Double Counted Duplicate Ballots Reuse Serial Numbers EMS Operating System Logs Not Preserved Election Data Found from Other States Audit Interference Batch Discrepancies Commingled Damaged and Original Ballots Early Votes Not Accounted for In EV33 High Bleed-Through Rates on Ballots Improper Paper Utilized Inaccurate Identification of UOCAVA Ballots Voter History Voter History Certified Results Voting Machine Voting Machine Voting Machine Certified Results Ballot Certified Results Voter History Voting Machine Voting Machine Voting Machine Voting Machine Voting Machine Voting Machine Certified results Voter History Certified Results Ballot Certified Results Voter History Voter History Ballots Voter History Voter History Voter History Voter History Ballot Ballot Ballot Voter History Voter History Ballot Ballot Ballot Certified Results Ballot Ballot Ballot 23,344 Critical 10,342 Critical 9,041 High N/A High N/A High N/A High 3,432 Medium 2,592 Medium 2,382 Medium 2,081 Medium N/A Medium N/A Medium N/A Medium N/A Medium N/A Medium N/A Medium 836 Low 618 Low 527 Low 500 Low 397 Low 393 Low 282 Low 226 Low 198 Low 194 Low 186 Low 101 Low 50 Low 6 Low 6 Low N/A Low N/A Low N/A Informational N/A Informational N/A Informational N/A Informational N/A Informational N/A Informational N/A Informational © 2021 Cyber Ninjas FOR ARIZONA SENATE USE ONLY Page 4 of 7 Missing Subpoena Items No Record of Voters in Commercial Database Out of Calibration Ballot Printers Real-Time Provisional Ballots Voter Registration System Audit Access Questionable Ballots Ballot Voter History Ballot Voter History Voter History Ballot N/A Informational N/A Informational N/A Informational N/A Informational N/A Informational N/A Informational 4 RECOMMENDATIONS The following sections outline the key recommendations that were determined over the course 4.1 Elimination of Universal Mail-in Voting of this audit. Universal Mail-in Voting statutes should be repealed, and absentee ballots only allowed in the strictest of circumstances for military personnel stationed outside of Arizona as well as doctor verified individuals who are not physically able to make it to a polling location. 4.2 Result Reconciliation Legislation should be considered that does not allow an election to be certified until the Official Canvas and the Final Voted File is fully reconciled. Furthermore, full records for every ballot sent, ballot received, ballot rejected, and ballot voided should have to be fully reconciled within a defined period after the election. 4.3 Voter Registration Legislation should be enacted that centralizes voter registration at the state level tied into the State’s motor vehicle and identification system ensuring that voters are registered under their full legal name and that they have only a single residential address with the state and one mailing address if applicable. 4.4 Voter Rolls Legislation should be enacted that links voter roll registration to changes in driver’s licenses or other state identification, as well as requiring the current voter rolls be validated against the United States Postal Service (USPS) National Change of Address (NCOA) at a predefined period prior to every election. Any voter roll software should validate that there is only one entry in the state database per identification number, such as a driver’s license number. Laws already exist for interstate reporting of changes in residence, addresses, and driver’s licenses. Tying voter roll registration to these forms of identification would greatly increase the likelihood that voter registration details would be kept up to date. Individuals are much more likely to remember their license needs to be updated immediately than voter registration, and since most states now offer the ability to register to vote when getting a license, license updates could also update voter rolls. It is recommended that the voter rolls be validated against the NCOA both 30 days or more prior to the election, in addition to a week before absentee ballots are sent out, along with requiring absentee voters to register prior to every election. This check would not be utilized to purge the rolls, but to validate that an absentee ballot should be sent prior to that ballot going out.. © 2021 Cyber Ninjas FOR ARIZONA SENATE USE ONLY Page 5 of 7 In addition, legislation should be considered to require the voter rolls to periodically be compared against ERIC, the Social Security’s Master Death List, or other commercially available tools that gives access to this information. Failure to do this at least once a year should come with financial penalties. 4.5 Election Software Legislation should be considered that would require applications developed and utilized for voter rolls or voting to be developed to rigorous standards that ensure the confidentiality and integrity of the systems. Specifically, its recommended that the Open Web Application Security Project (OWASP) Application Security Verification Standard (ASVS) Level 3 be applied to all applications associated with voter rolls or voting and that it be required that this be fully validation no less than once every two years. Part of this testing should be explicitly testing a programming interface access to validate that no external party has the capability to manipulate the voter rolls. Furthermore, it should be required that whoever builds the software be required to rotate vendors doing the OWASP ASVS Level 3 assessment a minimum of once every four years, with a rotation of no less than three vendors before returning back to a vendor utilized in the past. The vendor who performs this work must be willing to attest that their assessment fully covered the ASVS Level 3 requirements that there are no critical or high vulnerabilities detected, and that there is a remediation plan for any moderate risk vulnerabilities. 4.6 Voting Machines Legislation should be considered that would prohibit connecting tabulators, or the Election Management System Servers or similar equipment from being connected to the internet or any other mechanism that could allow remote access to these systems. Furthermore, County employees should have access to all administrative functions of all election equipment and have sufficient access to independently validate any configuration items on the device without requiring the involvement of any 3rd party vendor. In addition, electronic voting machines must always have a paper backup of all ballots which can be used to confirm that votes were cast as intended; and these machines must be regularly maintained according to the vendors recommended maintenance schedule. Failing to do so should have a financial impact on the County. Legislation should be considered that would require that paper stocks utilized on election day should conform to manufacturer recommendations to ensure that the paper that has been tested in the device is what is actually utilized to cast votes. 4.7 Election Audits Legislation should be considered that creates an election audit department in charge of regularly conducting audits on a rotating basis across all counties in Arizona after elections. This department should validate that the County follows all processes and procedures outlined in the Elections Procedure Manual (EPM) and have the ability to financially impact the County for repetitive EPM failures, or other failures that make auditing more difficult. Legislation should be considered that requires batches of ballots to be clearly labeled, separated from each other in a manner where they cannot easily mix together, and easily connected to the batches run through the tabulation © 2021 Cyber Ninjas FOR ARIZONA SENATE USE ONLY Page 6 of 7 equipment for easy auditing of the system. Failure to follow these practices should have financial implications for the County. Legislation should be considered with have financial and criminal penalties for purposely inhibiting a legislative investigation, or an officially sanction audit of an election. 4.8 Ballots Legislation should be considered that will make ballot images and the Cast Vote Record artifacts from an election that is publicly published within a few days of the results being certified for increased transparency and accountability in the election process. Legislation should further be considered that would require all ballots to be cast on paper by hand utilizing paper with security features such as watermarks or similar technology; with a detailed accounting of what paper(s) and the quantities utilized for any given election cycle. Absentee voting should incorporate an objective standard of verification for early voter identification, similar to the ID requirements required for in person voting. © 2021 Cyber Ninjas FOR ARIZONA SENATE USE ONLY Page 7 of 7

Name:	Carlson -	Reply
Subject:	Archie, need any more proof?
Date:	9/25/2021 3:20:53 PM

Let me know, I can post the full audit.  

btw, I do know people who have been cured by Ivermectin.  Also I can post new studies that verify HCQ works great as an early treatment.  I can post those as well.  Don't go to the hospital if you get it -they will kill you!  

peace out!

Name:	lakngulf -	Reply
Subject:	This Is Really Funny
Date:	9/25/2021 3:36:41 PM

I agree.  MTDS is probably better than TDS.  Sharp

Name:	Talullahhound -	Reply
Subject:	And now you are so happy
Date:	9/25/2021 6:12:54 PM

with your choice?  the man that careens from diaster to disaster and brags about how well it is all going?  The man that falls alseep in meeting with foreign leaders?  You think the Europeans aren't laughing behind his back?  47 years in Washington and all Joe mastered was optics.  Maybe you'll be able to hire some of those Haitians to do your lawn.

At least someone would want to see Melania naked on a fur rug - do you think anyone would pay to see Jill on a fur rug - even in her younger days????  and at least Melania knew how to dress and could wear clothes well - Jill always looks like a frump - the only thing she is missing is da bootie of Michelle.  

Name:	lakngulf -	Reply
Subject:	Archie, need any more proof?
Date:	9/25/2021 8:22:26 PM

Is that all you got Carlson?  Just plain facts.  But CNN, MSNBC and yadda yadda yadda said ...

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	And now you are so happy
Date:	9/25/2021 8:29:10 PM

Happy??? I am surprised as a woman you call Jill frumpy but have no issue or comment when the Forum Racists refer to the VP as a HO. For your info that is the abbreviation for whore. 

Name:	wix -	Reply
Subject:	GOOF- DUMBASS-IDIOT
Date:	9/25/2021 8:43:42 PM

SO, I’m a racist because I identify a known whore who used her (you know what) to get to where she is today.  Race, or color of skin, has absolutely nothing to do with being publicly known as a whore.  Now, I’ve never seen you post how wonderful you  think Hiden and da HO are representing our country, and what a great job you think they are doing!!  Tell us…….this is my 43rd request!!

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	Racist WIX
Date:	9/25/2021 9:25:09 PM

What does this mean???  "you know what" Don't you have the balls to just come out and say it?  What would you call her if she were a male? Cool or a winner?

Name:	Shortbus -	Reply
Subject:	Racist WIX
Date:	9/25/2021 9:52:52 PM

Recounting a stuffed ballot box gives you the same number of stuffed ballots.

Lots of unnecessary words on this thread.

Name:	wix -	Reply
Subject:	LOSER goof
Date:	9/25/2021 10:27:22 PM

Easy, if da HO was a male, I’d call her HUNTER BIDEN…..goof you are getting mentally weak…just like yo idol….Hiden.

Name:	Stillquietman -	Reply
Subject:	IDIOT wix
Date:	9/25/2021 11:45:29 PM

Wix, how can you be so stupid and still funcrion?  Is it pulleys and mirrors?  You are widely known as the dumbest member of this forum - how come you strive to be the laughing stock?  Does it somehow bring you satisfaction?

Name:	Lifer -	Reply
Subject:	Still an IDIOT man
Date:	9/26/2021 6:22:12 AM

You do a drive by and declare what is "widely known" is classic liberal.  So name a few of the folks who "know" wix is the stupidest poster.  You communicate witg no one here besides archie and goofy yet declare your voice as the voice of the forum.  

ARchie is as dense Brazillion iron wood and you are right there with him.  

Name:	architect -	Reply
Subject:	Well played GF
Date:	9/26/2021 8:45:30 AM

Amazing how the woman who once was a beacon of reason on this forum now complains about how a First Lady with PHD who still works a real job, dresses in public but has no problem with how a former First Lady that has always lived on somebody else's dime, undresses in public. Sadly Hound has become terminally addicted to the Trump Cult's Kool Aide.

Name:	wix -	Reply
Subject:	Hey, LOUD-IDIOT
Date:	9/26/2021 8:46:52 AM

Pride in being “country” and conservative is my thing, what’s yours……?  Do you think being liberal makes you smart?  Conservatives don’t depend on welfare, illegals, useless humans, and idiots for their votes and representation in gubment!

Name:	architect -	Reply
Subject:	In fairness why don’t you also post
Date:	9/26/2021 9:11:32 AM

The refutation or clarification of each Cyber Nings's "smoking gun" points by the Maricopa Election board which is dominated by honest Republicans.*  Don't forget the part where they explain how the voting process is never connected to the internet as claimed by Ninjas pointing out the proof offered is actually not the election machines but the Election Boards website which would be pretty useless if it was not connected to the web.  

You used to be willing consider both sides before you were hypnotized by the Trump Cult.

*Honest Republicans...the ones who still believe truth counts and think Abe Lincoln, not Donald Trump, was the greatest Republican President.

Name:	wix -	Reply
Subject:	ARCH-COMMIE IDIOT
Date:	9/26/2021 9:25:12 AM

Unlike you ARCH-IDIOT many people have learned through observation and experience that liberals really are idiots, especially liberals who don’t live on welfare, etc.  Grow up, get a life!

Name:	Talullahhound -	Reply
Subject:	And now you are so happy
Date:	9/26/2021 10:44:31 AM

Yes, I am aware what HO stands for.  She had a long term affair with a married politician, whom she cast aside when she entered a political position in California.  I have nothing good to say about Harris.  Yes, she is a woman, but she has reached her highest level of incompetence.  It's clear she is way in over her head.  I support competent women who do the hard work to get to the top.  

Name:	lakngulf -	Reply
Subject:	Well played GF
Date:	9/26/2021 2:18:34 PM

Archie my good man. Would you consider an alternate "truth" or explanation. 

Maybe people like Hound, Hodja, MM, Phil, Carlson, Lak, and many others have chosen our point of view, not for some cultist allegiance but for an utter disdain for the alternative.  In Feb 2016 I posted my Lesser Compromise post in support of Trump as the lesser evil.  I still feel that way.

Maybe you can give me some good points of HRC or Biden or Harris or other Dems that  would change my mind.  I am not a trump fan.  Others have said the same.  The alternative is repulsive.

To you it is just the opposite but you have no positives to latch on to Biden, only a disdain for T

Name:	architect -	Reply
Subject:	You mean women like Margery Taylor Greene?
Date:	9/26/2021 3:03:01 PM

I certainly cannot see how Melania Trump meets your test.

Name:	wix -	Reply
Subject:	ARCH-HO-LOVER
Date:	9/26/2021 3:10:01 PM

Melania is a mother, and has had a great career, both as a model, a mother, and a wife.  Da HO is what she is…..a dimokrap HO.  That’s all.

Name:	architect -	Reply
Subject:	LnG your post says a lot.
Date:	9/26/2021 3:19:44 PM (updated 9/26/2021 3:33:14 PM)

If it is OK for you and others you mention to choose the lesser of 2 evils why is it not OK for those of us who chose the other man as the lesser evil?  I certainly prefer the politics of Biden, HRC, and V. P. Harris's policies to those of the current Republican party but none of them would be my first choice as chief executive.  I would have preferred Bennett or Hickenlooper except I doubt either of them could have beaten Donald Trump who I honestly consider the most evil man to ever occupy the Oval Office.  I not only consider Trump evil but also am sincerely convinced he would like to overturn our constitutional system of government given that opportunity.  With that strongly held belief what else would you expect from me?

Hound was once derided for being one of the ''libtards'' on this forum. She has taken the sharpest turn toward what I consider the far greater of 2 evils, but several others you mention including Mr H, Carlson and yourself have always been very conservative but generally responsible contributors to this forum.  Unfortunately in the era of Trump that no longer seems true.  It is hard for some of us to understand how people who supported Bush ll can now be supportive of Trump.  If you, as you claim, consider Trump as the ''lesser of 2 evils'' and have a problem with Trump's character, why do you not speak up and save the Republican party by demanding a less tarnished alternative who is not seen as evil by the majority of your fellow citizens?  Do you actually believe that Ronald Reagan or Barry Goldwater or Dwight Eisenhower or even Dick Nixon would consider Trump anything other than simple evil...not a lesser evil?

Name:	lakngulf -	Reply
Subject:	LnG your post says a lot.
Date:	9/26/2021 3:33:40 PM

You missed the whole point.

Name:	Carlson -	Reply
Subject:	Archie, your response is pitiful.
Date:	9/26/2021 5:54:40 PM

You asked for proof, I gave it to you and post such a pitiful response.  Please don't ask anymore you are so discredited and biased.  Truly thought there might be some intelligent conversation.  

thanks that you did actually respond.  No intelligent life on this site.  

Name:	Stillquietman -	Reply
Subject:	Still an accurate man
Date:	9/26/2021 6:54:31 PM

Shakn in my boots Lifer. And thank you - I'll drive by any time I feel like it  As much as you don't want to recognize it, Wix is at best an outlier. Your brethren don't support his outlandish POV any more than you do. 

Name:	Lifer -	Reply
Subject:	Just Like a liberal
Date:	9/26/2021 7:36:50 PM

Once again you suppose to speak for "everybody", but don't have a clue what anyone is thinking, especailly me.

Name:	MrHodja -	Reply
Subject:	You mean women like Margery Taylor Greene?
Date:	9/26/2021 11:00:16 PM

I don't believe Melania Trump has run for public office, so your comment is utter BS.  Posing for an artistic nude photo is not quite like advancing a political career as a mistress to a powerful political figure.  If you can't do any better....oh, wait, you can't.  

Name:	MrHodja -	Reply
Subject:	LnG your post says a lot.
Date:	9/26/2021 11:15:11 PM

Archie is so blinded by his abject hatred of Donald Trump that he has completely lost any ability to reason.  His claim that the majority thinks Trump is evil is downright preposterous, but I have come to expect thst of him as he tries to claim the absolute chit show in the White House today is somehow better than the many successes the country saw under Trump.  Downright pitiful.  I would love to see him spout that crap in a real debate...he would be laughed off the stage.

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	LnG your post says a lot.
Date:	9/27/2021 8:25:08 AM

I think you are giving Archie way too much credit.  Based on his belief system and the posts I read before I put him on permanent ignore I suspect he never had the ability to reason.....at least I have never seen any evidence of it.  But I do agree that anyone that would wish death from a virus and financial ruin for his fellow citizens in order to get rid of a politician is one very evil, sick and inhumane person.  That is Archie's legacy here on the forum.

Name:	CRD -	Reply
Subject:	Still an accurate man
Date:	9/27/2021 10:10:11 AM

Welcome anytime to drive by, but understand that your comments that I have read generate no real critical thought.  Over time, you will be simply ignored.  To each his own.....

Name:	CRD -	Reply
Subject:	LnG your post says a lot.
Date:	9/27/2021 10:14:00 AM

VP Harris' policies?  Name one.

As Border CZAR, you ought to be able to come up with a Harris policy that has proven productive, humane, efficient and eradicates the problem, right.  We are breathlessly waiting. 

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	LnG your post says a lot.
Date:	9/27/2021 10:40:18 AM

Seems I recall one of their policies in the news recently, something about abusing migrants from horseback, shoving thousands under a bridge and releasing 10s of thousands into the US without a mandatory vaxx and at best a court date that they will ignore.

Biden has promised that the border agents will pay and has mandated no more horses.  

It has been described by demonrats as worse then slavery.

Name:	CRD -	Reply
Subject:	LnG your post says a lot.
Date:	9/27/2021 10:45:17 AM

Oh, you mean THAT policy, where the enforcers of our laws are penalized more than those who attempt to break our laws?  The Catch and Reward policy.

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	LnG your post says a lot.
Date:	9/27/2021 12:26:34 PM

Not sure we saw much catching  - saw a lot of standing around and ignoring the problems, then blaming the horse.

Name:	architect -	Reply
Subject:	Are you unbiased Carlton? Really? Pitiful...
Date:	9/28/2021 8:09:31 PM (updated 9/28/2021 8:16:16 PM)

The audit listed several ''anomalies'' with some ballots but did not claim they were proveably fraudulent.  Each anomaly was addressed and explained by the Republican chairman of the Maricopa County Voter Registrar.  Wonder how many ''anomalies'' voted for Trump...surely you aren't naive enough to think they were all for Biden? Time to take off the blinders Carlson and re-aquaint yourself with reality.  Leave the nonsense, BS and kooky conspiracies to MM, CRD, WIX and Shorty.

BTW:  If your copy of the ''audit report'' includes a statement that the results should not be certified you have gotten a fake report...that is according to Cyber Ninjas, not th MSM!  The actual report made no such claim.  Of course to the Trump Cult, truth is of no importnace!

Name:	architect -	Reply
Subject:	Mr H, what hard work did Melania Trump do to get
Date:	9/28/2021 8:25:42 PM (updated 9/28/2021 8:32:39 PM)

''to the top''?  I mean other than posing nude and being one of many willing to be a ''mistress'' to an unethical self proclaimed business ''genius'' *.

* To paraphrase your hero...''I got to tell you, I like business geniuses that don't declare bankruptcy multiple times''.

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	Mr A$$, what hard work did Hunter Biden do to get-
Date:	9/29/2021 8:52:19 AM (updated 9/29/2021 8:59:55 AM)

If unelected family members are fair game - can you swap Melania for Hunter and answer your own questions?  We have seen plenty regarding him nude and humping everything in sight (payed for via Pee Pads credit card), snorting up the nose candy or lighting up his crack rocks.

We have seen the emails on his laptop where he said he was not allowed around some underage family members because of his nudity.

That so called "Russian disinformation" that has since been verified as legit.

So please fill us in on Mr Naked Crackhead Humpalot and how he became so successful. 

I am betting him holding the 10% for the big guy explains it fully.

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	Are you unbiased Carlton? Really? Pitiful...
Date:	9/29/2021 9:34:56 AM (updated 9/29/2021 9:35:39 AM)

"The audit listed several ''anomalies'' with some ballots but did not claim they were proveably fraudulent.  Each anomaly was addressed and explained by the Republican chairman of the Maricopa County Voter Registrar.  Wonder how many ''anomalies'' voted for Trump.."

If you felt that many of the anomolies were for Trump you would be demanding the audits and facts to prove republicans are at fault.  

Most of us are just hoping that the "anomalies" get resolved before the next elections so everyone can have a little faith in the election, thankfully you are coming around to our way of thinking since you are now indicating that there were actually "anomalies" and at least starting to question how many went for each canidate - its a start.

Name:	MrHodja -	Reply
Subject:	Mr H, what hard work did Melania Trump do to get
Date:	9/29/2021 10:11:41 AM

Again, utter BS that has nothing to do with a politician sleeping her way to being a resident at the Naval Observatory in DC.