Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Another Dementia Joe promise in the toilet
Date:	8/1/2022 8:28:29 AM

This is a big one as he promised no one making under $400K would pay a dime more in taxes while he is President.  Well the Schumer-Manchin bill will increase taxes for every single American making more than $30K per year.  I told you Manchin was unprincipled and he and Schumer scammed the stupid party by making them think they had given up on raising taxes so they would pass the CHIPs bill.  I was once again right....this time about Manchin.  And lest some left wing nut wants to accuse me of fake news see the below which comes directly from the Senate which is controlled by Democrats.

Name:	Talullahhound -	Reply
Subject:	Another Dementia Joe promise in the toilet
Date:	8/1/2022 9:15:16 AM

I  never believed it would only be poeple over $400K would be the only ones with higher taxes.  When you see the spending, but don't hear of money being taken from one thing and put on another thing, you know they are counting on raising taxes.  It's just a shell game.  Only the stupid think that they are aren't going to pay more.  

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Another Dementia Joe promise in the toilet
Date:	8/1/2022 9:45:53 AM

Yep....those making over $400K was never enough to pay for all the spending Democrats and far too many Republicans want to implement.  What I think Dems are counting on is that less than 50% of Americans pay any Federal income taxes.  Rob Peter to pay Paul and you can always count on the support of Paul....  The "rich" are the ones that have the lawyers and accountants to avoid paying taxes, not to mention the lobbyists to get language in that they can take full advantage of.  They are counting on people to be stupid.  So now we are down to Kirsten Sinema to block the stupid idea of raising taxes in the middle of a recession and increasing spending that will only fuel more inflation.  I am not optimistic about her but I had Manchin pegged.  He must be very good at retail politics because he is screwing over the people of WVa.

Name:	Talullahhound -	Reply
Subject:	Another Dementia Joe promise in the toilet
Date:	8/1/2022 11:18:58 AM

I have to say that I am disappointed in Manchin. I really thought he had the sense to see that this Democratic spending  needed to stop. And then to cut a deal with Schumer, the slimeball.  UGH

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Another Dementia Joe promise in the toilet
Date:	8/1/2022 11:25:26 AM

They really scammed the GOP into agreeing to the CHIP bill under the false premise that this monstrosity was DOA.  The stupid part blows it again.  Manchin is a Democrat first despite all his bluster.  Saw an article today that pointed out how this bill will really screw over WVa residents.....of course.  I am starting to think that Manchin turned because they threatened to primary him with a left wing nut.  Funny thing is ever if that happened he could probably run as an Independent and still win.

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	Another MM post in the toilet
Date:	8/6/2022 12:56:15 AM

The Inflation Reduction Act will not increase taxes for Americans earning less than $400,000. The basis of your statement is a single piece of analysis which, while thorough and comes from an authoritative source, is still just a projection of potential follow-on costs after corporations and others are taxed.(Newsweek)

It does not include the projected savings from drugs under Medicare and assumes Corporations will raise prices, stocks will fall, and wages will be cut from the 15% minimum corporate tax. Another example of your fake news postings.

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Another amazing post from Goofy
Date:	8/6/2022 10:05:16 AM

You correctly characterize the source of the analysis in the first paragraph and then claim without any basis that their analysis was faulty.  Your analysis is so silly I don't know where to begin.  A couple of points as I don't have the desire to refute you point by point as it is wasted on the likes of you.  Corporations ALWAYS pass extra costs onto the consumer, especially costs that hit all their competitors like tax increases.  Govt artificially lowering the price of any consumer good ALWAYS has the same result...scarcity.  

This bill is a horrible idea conceived at a horrible time with a horribly misleading name by people whose only idea is ALWAYS higher taxes and more govt control over our lives......ALWAYS.

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	Stay On Message
Date:	8/6/2022 11:39:13 AM (updated 8/6/2022 11:40:09 AM)

"Corporations ALWAYS pass extra costs onto the consumer, especially costs that hit all their competitors like tax increases.  Govt artificially lowering the price of any consumer good ALWAYS has the same result...scarcity."

The issue is not increased costs or scarcity....you stated taxes will increase and now you are equating a shortage or an increase in price to a tax. Your nose is growing dude.

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Please tell me you’re not that dense..oh wait
Date:	8/6/2022 6:31:57 PM

I provided a copy of the table from the Senate organ that showed by income bracket the tax increase in the Inflation Increase, Tax and Spend, Double the Number of IRS Agents Act.  It's pretty self explanatory....and yet after you complimented the competence and professionalism of the group your second paragraph regurgitated the lies of the Dementia Joe admin and Manchin like the good useful idiot you are.  Goofy, if you have an analysis by a competent, unbiased source that refutes this table I am all ears.  Until then all you're doing is puking up lies you hear on pmsnBS or cnnBS.....sorry, not good enough...not even close.

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	Stay On Message
Date:	8/8/2022 12:33:08 PM

He was on message "Another Dementia Joe promise in the toilet"

Now how would you honestly answer if the same bill was passed by Trump......  if the name change makes a difference in how you see/accept the bill then you are the problem.