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Name:   LonghornBoater - Email Member
Subject:   Mildew
Date:   4/1/2008 5:07:15 PM

Can anyone give me a good formula for taking DEEP mildew stains out of the upolstery on my boat?



Name:   LifeTime Laker - Email Member
Subject:   Mildew
Date:   4/1/2008 5:19:08 PM

10-20% bleach water followed by a thourough rinsing, a good cleaning and then a protectant.



Name:   dmp - Email Member
Subject:   Mildew
Date:   4/1/2008 5:38:04 PM

Some folks say an ammonia solution is good and does not damage stithing like sodium hypochlorite can.



Name:   sagetek - Email Member
Subject:   Mildew
Date:   4/1/2008 6:37:58 PM

My pontoon boat manufacturer says use about 1 part hydrogen peroxide, 1 part ammonia, and 3 parts water. These are "grocery store" strength products by the way.



Name:   GoneFishin - Email Member
Subject:   Previous Response to Mildew
Date:   4/1/2008 6:56:28 PM

Here is a previous posting from Anchorbay Don from Anchor Bay marina to a similar question:


"There are several commercial products that will remove mildew. Just make certain that the one you use contains no bleach products as they will destroy the stiching in your upholstery as well as any protective coating that the mfgr may have treated it with.

We use 1/3 distilled water, 1/3 ammonia, and 1/3 hydrogen peroxide. It works well and will not damage the stiching."

Good luck and let us know how it works.





Name:   Maverick - Email Member
Subject:   Amazon Mildew Away
Date:   4/1/2008 7:03:50 PM

Boaters World carried it last year, not sure if they are carrying it this year or not -- will find out this week as I need some more.

URL: Amazon Mildew Away

Name:   Mulligan - Email Member
Subject:   Mildew
Date:   4/1/2008 7:54:45 PM

I spray mix of hot water and oxiclean and let it sit over night, then hose and scrub it off next am. Scrub with scotchbrite pad, and LOTS of elbow grease. Part of my winterizing is to spray the same solution and leave it on for the winter, very little mildew when I hit the water in Spring. I have 99 boat with original seats that this process has been done since new.



Name:   Julio - Email Member
Subject:   Mildew
Date:   4/1/2008 10:23:51 PM

The best mildew remover I have ever used is a product called "Mildew Stain Destroyer" available at Dollar General stores. It only costs about $2 per bottle. All you have to do is spray it on and watch the mildew disappear in minutes. I'm sure it's just a mixture a bleach/chlorine, but it works like magic. Just as LTL said, make sure you rinse everything off very well after, and then use a protectorate. I've used it for years, and I haven't lost a stitch yet.



Name:   NautiMinded - Email Member
Subject:   Mildew
Date:   4/1/2008 11:51:01 PM

Do NOT use anything with bleach or alcohol. Read the labels before you apply. Products containing these will eat away at your stitching.



Name:   NautiMinded - Email Member
Subject:   Mildew
Date:   4/1/2008 11:53:06 PM

Not to toot my own horn, but I am a female, and generally we know how to clean things better and safer than men. Also, we take time to read labels.
Puddin stirred!



Name:   Hunting231 - Email Member
Subject:   Caution
Date:   4/1/2008 11:57:59 PM

Be very careful when trying to come up with a "magical" mildew remover formula. Although many people don't think of household cleaners as dangerous - when mixed they can become a noxious combination. Especially stay away from ammonia and bleach (chloride) mixtures as the gases when enhaled can be very damaging to your lungs. Generally speaking - stay away from mixing anything with bleach except of course water.

Best of luck to everyong with their boat cleaning - I'm in the process now of trying to get ours ready for this weekend.



Name:   LifeTime Laker - Email Member
Subject:   Caution
Date:   4/2/2008 8:52:31 AM

That gas can do more damage than to the lungs. It is FATAL. Chlorine and amonia produce CYANIDE GAS!! In fact back in the days of 'gas chambers' as the preferred method of execution that is axactly what was used. A chlorine tablet was lowered into a pot of amonia to produce the gas.



Name:   dmp - Email Member
Subject:   Caution
Date:   4/2/2008 9:15:38 AM

Actually it produces Chlorine gas not Cyanide. The reaction is as follows:

2(parts)NaOCl + 2NH3 --> 2NaONH3 + Cl2.

Cl2 is liberated Chlorine gas and has 7 electrons in its outer shell. Following the octet rule it is highly reactive and is "looking" for that 8th electron to fill the valance shell, and, it will get it from your lungs, trachea, etc.

Not good!

Avoid, NEVER mix ammonia and bleach (sodium hypochlorite).



Name:   Council Roc Doc - Email Member
Subject:   Caution
Date:   4/2/2008 9:46:32 AM

Only to be more accurate, a single Chlorine atom has 7 electrons in its outer shell. Simplistically, 6 are paired leaving 1 unpaired electron. It combines with another Chlorine atom with a covalent bond where they both share each others unpaired electron, creating some form of stability. I can remember one of my first electrolysis experiments in Chemistry where we produced chlorine gas from brine. Certainly a noxious gas! As I recall, rocket fuel can also be generated from a combo of ammonia and bleach, however, I do not recall the concentrations or proportions.



Name:   dmp - Email Member
Subject:   Caution
Date:   4/2/2008 9:55:17 AM

I stand corrected. They do share a covalent bond. Thanks for the clarification/correction!

dmp



Name:   dmp - Email Member
Subject:   Caution
Date:   4/2/2008 9:59:49 AM

One more thought.

I think hydrazine can be made from certain concentrations of ammonia and sodium hypochlorite. Hydrazine is used in the space shuttle for the onboard orbital manuevering system and the APU's for flight control surface power upon landing.

Thanks for your input.

dmp



Name:   Council Roc Doc - Email Member
Subject:   Caution
Date:   4/2/2008 10:07:28 AM

Was that not the fuel that powered the satellite that was recently shot from orbit? But you are right, hydrazine can be a byproduct of the bleach/ammonia combination.



Name:   dmp - Email Member
Subject:   Caution
Date:   4/2/2008 10:13:10 AM

Yes, that one was powered by hydrazine. It is not uncommon to use it as a fuel, especially depending on the orbit of the satellite. Some orbits do not lend themselves to solar panels.



Name:   LifeTime Laker - Email Member
Subject:   I stand corrected.
Date:   4/2/2008 12:02:13 PM

I got my info from a chemical salesman as to the type of gas, but have seen video that shows the execution process. Chlorine gas is probably more noxious than cyanide. That is what bankrupted Avondale Mills. The chlorine gas from the train derailment destroyed their Carolina plant. Even after more than a year, they still were having problems directly related to gas. Most notabely, electrical and electronic failures. It seems the chlorine gas destroyed the plastic coating on electrical wires. Bad stuff that chlorine.



Name:   8hcap - Email Member
Subject:   I stand corrected.
Date:   4/2/2008 2:53:19 PM

I worked in the aluminum cast house up in the Tri-Cities one summer after high school. Chlorine gas is used in the alloy making process and every now and then you would get a whiff of it. Let me tell you, it was like being punched in the sternum. It was like all the oxygen in your lungs was instantly gone. A deep breath would take you down and out for several days. That never happend to me, thank goodness.

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Name:   rude evin - Email Member
Subject:   You gotta love.........
Date:   4/2/2008 9:17:31 PM

MythBuster and Council Roc Doc and dmp..............they should hence forth be known as the LM Forum Truth Squad.............! :~}



Name:   FLgirl - Email Member
Subject:   Mildew
Date:   4/2/2008 9:43:24 PM

We have the same problem with our boat and will try some of the suggestions. One I have to pass on that helps is to put Damp Rid in the boat when it is covered. It helps immensely in keeping the mildew problem from starting. Check frequently and replace as necessary.



Name:   dmp - Email Member
Subject:   Mildew
Date:   4/3/2008 9:37:41 AM

Couldn't agree more!

Damp Rid works great. Thanks for passing that idea along!



Name:   dmp - Email Member
Subject:   You gotta love.........
Date:   4/3/2008 9:38:32 AM

Why thank you very much!

Have a great day!



Name:   Maverick - Email Member
Subject:   Mildew - Water Absorption
Date:   4/3/2008 12:18:37 PM

I tried something this past winter which appears to have worked pretty well with regards to absorbing the moisture over the winter. Read article on Internet.

Placed two 5 gallon buckets (in front and back of boat) and filled about 1/2 of the way with charcoal.

Seems to have significantly reduced the mildew growth over the winter. Think I am going to begin using such all year round when I cover the pontoon to see if such does in fact reduce the moisture level and mildew.



Name:   LifeTime Laker - Email Member
Subject:   Mildew - Water Absorption
Date:   4/3/2008 12:24:18 PM

Kitty litter may work jsut as well with less potential mess in case of accidental spill. Just a thought.







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